Holly and her son Rogan welcome a surprise third guest, Cash the dog, who immediately takes over the show. They catch up on Holly’s trip to Newfoundland, Rogan’s week dog-sitting, and Sully the anxious dog’s sweet breakthrough. They also cover a new espresso machine, a possible barista career, and the one-year anniversary of the podcast. Plus: the invention of a brand-new drink.

Holly B. is joined by Michael Perzel and Rick Mowat. They start with fall leaves and travel, including Michael finishing all 50 states, then Michael’s beloved golden retrievers, Pearl and Derby, and how his early dog paintings.

The conversation turns to how two friends from Morton’s Steakhouse in Philadelphia found each other again during COVID. Michael had stories he’d never written down. Rick, with decades in screenwriting, directing and producing, pushed him for emotion and honesty, even on painful chapters about his father and his brother. The result is a book that is by turns tragic and hilarious.

They also cover the audiobook production (Michael narrates, Rick voices the characters, and the editor, who has worked on 2,500+ audiobooks, said it was one of his most challenging because he kept laughing), marketing a book through podcasts, Rick’s upcoming film Last Pint and why Ireland is a filmmaker’s dream, and the format of their new podcast, with a tongue-in-cheek first-episode topic.

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Livin' It: True Story of a Bad Kid from Philly Who Defies the Odds

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Holly B. and Rogan are back for a cozy catch-up. They talk about finishing the Caledon Hills section of the Bruce Trail, the hikers who somehow finish an hour ahead every day, the legendary chip, Coke and candy checkpoint, and the best apple Holly has ever eaten, picked straight off a tree deep in the bush. Plus: Rogan’s Valheim relapse, why he’s officially over university parties, Holly’s seven-more-Mondays countdown to retirement, and her brand-new 30-day podcast.

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