Rachel Abrams (co-host of The Daily) joins the podcast to finally settle the debate: was E.T. slimy or dry? She also talks about her journey to becoming a host of The Daily, and gives a full-throated endorsement of the chicken at Medieval Times.

00:00:00 Cold Open: The Rocky Raccoon Weather Bit
00:00:28 Welcome to But Also, With Guest Rachel Abrams
00:01:03 Rachel's 17 Years in Journalism, From Variety to the Times
00:04:12 The Moonves Investigation and the Source Who Lost Everything
00:06:49 How Rachel Became a Host of The Daily
00:08:43 Michael's Wife Thinks Rachel Hosts The Daily Show
00:10:58 The Fake 49ers Player Scammer
00:12:18 Only Recognized as "Michael Barbaro"
00:14:38 The Craft of Sounding Natural on the Radio
00:19:10 Unconventional Paths Into the New York Times
00:23:18 Ira Glass's Advice on Leaning Into Humor
00:25:22 Finding Humor in Dark and Serious Stories
00:32:48 The Philosophy of Comedy and Truth
00:34:10 Segment: The Daily Quiz
00:40:36 Google Thinks Rachel Abrams Is Dead
00:41:15 Party Tricks: Presidents and Days of the Week
00:50:17 Rachel's Childhood Radio Career
00:52:33 Life After Late Night and Chasing Comedy Jobs
00:58:35 Ayahuasca, MDMA, and Psychedelic Confessions
01:04:15 Full Throated Endorsement: Medieval Times Chicken
01:10:37 Was E.T. Wet or Dry? The Spielberg Story
01:13:45 Outro

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