Thinking about leaving corporate but worried about the money? Erin and Elizabeth talk with Shannon Baird, a corporate exit strategist and founder of The Clean Exit. She helps burned-out corporate women replace their income with a simple service-based business before they leave their jobs.

Shannon shares how a Valentine's Day layoff after 11 years in corporate marketing led her to stop and ask what she actually wanted.

They cover:

• Why the layoff wasn't the real problem, and what it revealed

• "Socially transmitted diseases": the "shoulds" and beliefs we absorb without noticing
• How to find your freedom number, the bare minimum you need each month, and how it differs from savings
• Why burnout is your body's last signal, and why a steady nervous system matters when you plan a change
• Why freelancing is a good first offer, and what portfolio careers and part-time arrangements can look like
• Why you don't have to burn your life down. You can get back in touch with who you were before the conditioning
• Why your "why" doesn't have to be grand

Find Shannon on Substack (Shannonbaird.substack.com), where she also links her quiz, "What did corporate force you to abandon?" Be sure to follow the show for new episodes each week.

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