The dream isn't just the picture you see at the end. The dream is walking out the process that gets you there.

That's one of the most honest things Scott Ingegneri says in part two of this conversation — and by the time he says it, you've already heard enough of his story to know he means every word. Scott is a pastor, CEO of ACT International, and a man who has been saying "Good morning, Holy Spirit, take control" every single morning since second grade.

In this episode, Scott shares the stories behind the stories — his son who picked up a passion for lighting design as a little boy and is now a renowned production designer in country music. His wife who felt the Lord prompt her to turn into a property that wasn't even on the market yet. The midnight ceiling-painting sessions. The moment he said yes to leading a 50-year-old missions organization and had to grieve stepping away from the ministry with his wife that had defined everything they'd built together.

We also talk about what it means to encourage the dreamers in your home, what it looks like when your kids actually take you up on it, and what Scott would say to anyone who is in the middle of the hard, slow, unglamorous part of their calling and wondering if it's worth it.

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