What do Americans actually believe about democracy, polarization, and the economy? And what does the data tell us about where the country is headed?

In this episode, Dr. Paul Zeitz sits down with veteran Democratic pollster and strategist Celinda Lake to unpack decades of public opinion research and what it reveals about this political moment and the possibility of a supermajority of the American people agreeing that we need to Fix the System. Celinda shares her journey from growing up in a Republican family in rural Montana to becoming one of the country's leading political pollsters, reflecting on how data—not ideology—shaped her career.

They explore why economic messaging has become central to rebuilding public trust, what voters really think about democracy, the rise of populism across the political spectrum, and why many Americans feel disconnected from both major parties.

They also discuss constitutional transformation, electoral reforms, declining civic trust, the importance of protecting voting rights, and why renewing American democracy and improving economic opportunity must go hand in hand.

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