Jem's machinist has quietly thrown out the Multicam software and now runs the CNC from a web browser, complete with utilization tracking. Justin's stuck clicking thousands of tabs in Fusion and is (likely) ready to build his own fix. Plus a big plywood job that got dicey on cashflow, deposit math, and build fatigue. Plus IMTS plans!

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• Tracking costs and errors
• Change fatigue?
• Inspiration of "kids room" furniture
• IMTS - Justin 16-18th
• Jonny's Multicam CNC tools
• Nesting
• Tabs
• Errors, costs tracking

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Jem Freeman

Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia

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Justin Brouillette

Portland, Oregon, USA

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Jem closes $19K in sales via text message while Justin battles shipping errors and imperial tape measures (slam?!). Justin shares CNC de-tabbing tricks, discuss auto-chucks with torque sensing for the pencil sharpener, and debate customer service boundaries. Jem admits he's avoiding his robot cell safety project while Justin celebrates finally killing Text Expander with SnipSnip

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• luv for iMessage sales process
• accccoutnabilitbudddy
• Systems daddy
• Detabbing on machine tutorial
• Measurements

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Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia

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Portland, Oregon, USA

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Jem hits the dream product mix with 16 deliveries in one day while Justin codes at coffee shops and preps for baby number two. Justin built a free Mac app that previews CAD and G-code files in QuickLook. Assembly guide workflows, and Jem's massive new speakers that are taller than he is.

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• Budgies
• Mac CAD Preview mini-app
• Rake - Tip of spear
• Prompt fatigue
• New Likebutter Assembly Guides
• Blum hinge models? yessss
• Fusion MCP

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Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia

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Portland, Oregon, USA

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Justin cuts 4140 steel for the first time for PDX CNC products while Jem battles venomous spiders and pallet racking inspections. They discuss organizing shop kits with gridfinity bins, Airtable's uncertain future, local file storage versus cloud chaos, and surviving wildfire smoke. Plus: Christopher Nolan's massive IMAX camera and the eternal struggle of documentation.

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• Steel!
• Work Safe
• Airtable bought for 8x less than top value
• Super Smoky
• Big Summer Movie this summmmmer
• FU Assembly Bins - video?
• Google Search Console - Instagram, Tiktok, Youtube now!
• Tool-tags.com

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Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia

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Portland, Oregon, USA

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Jem and Justin compare sales swings and shop chaos: a robot-cooked sander, a $15k sanding head quote, and high schoolers quality-checking parts before they ship. Plus network tinkering regrets, blowing nine million tokens in one sitting, Fusion file manager grievances, and the debut of a very questionably named app.

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• No quoting, still hitting target ꘎
• Custom Robots
• "Focused" product dev
• UniFi thoughts ꘎
• Blew all my tokens, again ⠄
• Help Scout MCP on Claude
• Infra-tinkering time suck ꘎
• Crawling back to Lightroom ꘎
• Robots on the cheap cheap ꘎
• Shipments getting stuck
• Fusion operation note
• SnipSnip

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Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia

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Portland, Oregon, USA

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Jem’s wiped out after installing seven sculptures in a single day, while Justin’s machining a 65-inch timber spear gun and fighting the ShopSabre’s Y-axis overheating. They talk Shopify bill wins, Justin’s new private dashboard app, GitHub issues, packing-station kiosks, voice notes, and the surprisingly good iOS 27 beta. Plus AR headphone daydreams and why documenting warehouse workflow is still the hardest game.

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• Jem's bender
• Two-year comparison Shopify Bill ꘎ $15 vs $1500
• Fangs + Stops experience with Speargun
• Shopify recovery
• Unifi upgrades
• FU PF at LB?
• Arbitrary AR Desire
• ShopSabre issue
• Fulfillment organization question
• Flag to edit, make a note
• Rake - backups
• New Siri

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Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia

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Portland, Oregon, USA

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Jem and Justin trade toddler war stories before Jem confesses he'd rather tear down 4.5m pallet racking alone at midnight than hire anyone. Justin reveals his June sales cliff after a domain migration tanked Google traffic, hitting Profit First distributions hard. They also riff on the Obsidian exodus from Notion, breaking up with Cursor for Claude Code, and why rearranging the shop is happening before finishing new products.

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• Migrating away from Cursor ꘎
• We have become a tech company ꘎
• Obsidian rollout ꘎
• Recovering migration hangover
• Finishing reorganization on woodshop
• The deep thinkings and feelings of lean
• The internet never forgets - outro song

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Jem Freeman

Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia

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Justin Brouillette

Portland, Oregon, USA

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Jem and Justin chat about the World Cup's surprisingly warm reception in the US, Jem's Kitta Parts Builder getting a 3D preview upgrade (doors that actually open), and a FedEx API build that finally came together. Justin shares how Shopify's AI flagged a 430-pound weight bug before support did. They close on a real Profit First curveball: what do you do when a big deposit lands early?

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• World Cup
• Double shifts at Butter
• Like Butter Kitta Parts Builder Update - 3D
• Henry Holsters - overhead camera?
• Is it 430 lbs?
• Recommended: Unsolved mystery of Lorem Ipsum
• PF oversize conundrum ꘎
• Dispatch improvements ꘎

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HOSTS

Jem Freeman

Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia

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Justin Brouillette

Portland, Oregon, USA

PDX CNC | Instagram | More Links