In this powerful and transparent episode of the P4P Podcast, DJ Garces is joined by Inspire Church’s Lead Pastors, Mike and Lisa Kai, the church’s new CFO, Sebastian Buffa, and long-time leader Ju Frigilana. Together, they explore what it takes to lead with conviction, fail forward with grace, and steward a thriving ministry culture. From hilarious honesty about borrowing your spouse’s leadership lessons to sobering insights on conflict, criticism, and calling, this episode dives deep into the heart of leadership in the church. You’ll hear untold stories behind the Arise Women’s Conference, the behind-the-scenes growth of Inspire Church, and how leadership pain becomes a platform for greater capacity. Whether you’re leading a team, navigating seasons of burnout, or figuring out how to be a “thermostat” and not just a thermometer, this conversation is packed with wisdom, humility, and vision.

In this episode of Pound for Pound Leadership, special guests Ju and Clint join Pastor Mike to ask insightful questions about leadership, faith, and personal growth. They explore the journey of discovering one’s calling, overcoming challenges, and the importance of wisely stewarding time, relationships, and resources.

Key Takeaways:

(00:15) Get organized with the Great Life Planner at mikekai.tv.

(01:50) Ju shares her journey from managing a music store to leading ministries at Inspire Church.

(04:55) Clint’s story—from working at Pac Rim and Local Motion to serving in youth ministry.

(07:25) The power of work ethic and perseverance in ministry.

(09:39) Pastor Mike on where his drive comes from—humble beginnings, hard work, and God’s calling.

(13:55) The impact of building a strong team and the importance of maximizing time.

(17:18) Trusting God’s economy—stepping out in faith and building financial stewardship.

(22:10) Prioritizing marriage while managing the demands of ministry. (25:40) The story behind Arise.

(33:07) How young people can discover their God-given purpose.

(37:33) The value of strong communication and resilience in leadership.

(40:11) Staying on track with your calling—navigating disappointment and expectations.

(43:33) Church leadership and the balance between repentance and reconciliation.

(45:40) The future of the church in Hawaii and navigating faith in today’s world.

(51:26) Overcoming insecurity in the age of social media—focus on gratitude and purpose.

(56:43) Closing thoughts and a reminder to grab the Great Life Planner! Tune in for a powerful conversation on faith, leadership, and the journey of fulfilling God’s purpose in our lives.

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