In 2023, we released an episode about eco-anxiety that quickly became one of the most listened-to conversations on this show, and landed us our first award.

But honestly, that didn’t surprise me. More and more people are feeling overwhelmed by the state of the world—whether it’s the climate crisis, the 24-hour news cycle, political instability, or just the constant sense that everything is happening all at once.

So in episode 220 of the Outdoor Minimalist podcast, I wanted to revisit that topic, but from a slightly broader perspective with the help of my guest, Laura Hartley.

Laura is a leadership coach & climate activist helping changemakers deepen their impact while living their most thriving life. Fascinated by the relationship between inner and outer change, Laura bridges systems thinking with self-work to empower changemakers with the skills of dismantling capitalism and patriarchy from the inside out.

Together, we explore how eco-anxiety fits into the wider landscape of burnout, information overload, and the pressure many people feel to personally “fix” the world’s problems. We talk about how our economic and cultural systems—things like individualism, capitalism, and the myth of the lone hero—shape the way we experience stress and responsibility in the climate movement.

But we also explore the other side of that conversation: community, hope, and how reconnecting with each other—and the natural world—can change the way we navigate these feelings.

An important note before we hear the interview: This episode discusses topics like anxiety, burnout, and emotional responses to climate change. However, neither my guest nor I are trained therapist or mental health professional. This conversation is meant to explore ideas and share perspectives, not provide medical advice. If you’re experiencing severe anxiety, distress, or other mental health symptoms, please consider seeking support from a qualified mental health professional.

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This week’s public lands news briefing covers:

1. Recent Big Bend border wall lawsuits with Laiken Jordahl (Center for Biological Diversity)

2. The proposed FY2027 Department of the Interior budget and its impacts on BLM lands with Chris Hill (Conservation Lands Foundation)

3. The Senate’s passage of H.J. Res. 140, overturning Boundary Waters mining protections

Resources & Links:

Senate roll call vote for H.J. Res. 140: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1192/vote_119_2_00084.htm

Call the U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

Center for Biological Diversity: https://biologicaldiversity.org

Conservation Lands Foundation: https://www.conservationlands.org

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What if the most sustainable outdoor product… is one that you never buy in the first place?

The outdoor industry has spent years talking about circularity—repair programs, resale platforms, and recycling initiatives designed to keep gear out of landfills. But there’s one idea that rarely makes it into the conversation: renting.

In episode 219 of the Outdoor Minimalist podcast, I’m joined by returning guest Reet Singh, co-founder of TripOutside, to explore a question that could reshape how outdoor gear is designed, sold, and used: Is renting the missing link in a truly circular outdoor economy?

Reet argues that many of the products we buy—skis, kayaks, mountain bikes, even backpacks—are used only a fraction of their lifespan before spending most of their time sitting in garages or closets. What if brands made renting those products just as easy as buying them? And what if that shift could reduce waste and lower costs for consumers, all while still being profitable for companies?

Reet Singh is the co-founder of TripOutside, a platform that helps people discover and book human-powered outdoor adventures through local outfitters. When he’s not building tools to help more people get outside, you can usually find him mountain biking, scrambling peaks, snowboarding, or introducing someone new to their first outdoor adventure.

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Plastic has infiltrated every facet of our lives. It is essentially inescapable. And while plastic is now a normalized material that we interact with every day, the health impacts are becoming harder and harder to ignore.

The Plastic Detox, a new documentary now available on Netflix, examines how much plastic is impacting our health and whether it is possible to detox our bodies from continued exposure.

It combines the science behind these health concerns with real human experiences for a compelling story about human resilience and the solutions to a few of the problems plastic has plagued us with.

In episode 218 of the Outdoor Minimalist podcast, I had the pleasure of sitting down with one of the film’s producers and directors, Josh Murphy, to discuss what went into making the film and how stories like these can help us better understand the plastic pollution crisis while inspiring us to take action in our own lives.

Josh Murphy is an Emmy Award–winning filmmaker, director, producer, and writer whose work focuses on character-driven stories at the intersection of humanity and the environment. His films often explore climate, conservation, and human resilience through compelling storytelling.

His credits include producing the Tribeca-winning film Here Alone, co-producing The Push, contributing to Alex Gibney’s documentary The Inventor, and directing the acclaimed documentary Artifishal, commissioned by Patagonia founder Yvon Chouinard.

Most recently, he won an Emmy for the Netflix series You Are What You Eat: A Twins Experiment and co-directed and produced the Netflix documentary The Plastic Detox. Before entering filmmaking, he trained as a natural resource scientist and fisheries biologist, inspired early on by Jacques Cousteau’s blend of exploration, storytelling, and environmental advocacy.

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The Plastic Detox: https://www.netflix.com/title/82074244

In this week's public lands news briefing, we cover three main stories:

1. The Trump administration has begun the process of potentially reversing federal protections for the lands surrounding Chaco Culture National Historical Park in northwestern New Mexico

2. Senator Mike Lee and Rep. Celeste Maloy introduced a joint resolution to undo the Grand Staircase-Escalante management plan using the Congressional Review Act ft. Steve Bloch, the legal director for the Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance

3. The U.S. Department of Agriculture announced the reorganization plan for the U.S. Forest Service ft. Josh Hicks, Conservation Campaigns Director at The Wilderness Society

We can only cover a limited number of stories in our Friday public lands news briefing, and a lot more has happened in the last two weeks concerning our public lands.

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Episodes Resources:

Comment on Chaco Canyon: https://eplanning.blm.gov/Project-Home/?id=D949F582-402D-F111-8341-001DD804183B

Archaeology Southwest YouTube Video: https://youtu.be/ol8-AiG6lxg?si=0G-NINyf_vtS_Jmb

Forest Service Reorganization: https://www.fs.usda.gov/sites/default/files/organizational-realignment-factsheet.pdf

In recent years, more people than ever have been heading outdoors—discovering new trails, exploring public lands, and connecting with nature in ways that are shaping the future of outdoor recreation.

But with that surge in participation comes an important question: how do we make sure the places we love are protected?

In episode 217 of the Outdoor Minimalist podcast, we’re talking about AllTrails’ first-ever Impact Report and what it reveals about the role technology can play in protecting trails, supporting land managers, and turning outdoor users into stewards of the places they explore.

To explore this topic, I’m joined by Pitt Grewe, Head of Social and Environmental Impact at AllTrails.

If you’ve ever used the app to plan a hike, check trail conditions, or discover a new route, you’ve interacted with the platform he’s helping shape.

Pitt has spent more than two decades working across the outdoor industry with a focus on helping people connect with public lands. Before joining AllTrails, he served as Director of the Division of Outdoor Recreation for the state of Utah, where he worked with partners across government, nonprofits, and industry to expand outdoor access and funding.

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What do you think of when you think of meditation?

Many people think of meditation as only sitting still and clearing your mind, but in reality, mindfulness can happen through movement, sound, and attention. And for a lot of people, the outdoors might be the most natural place to experience it.

In episode 216 of the Outdoor Minimalist podcast, we’re exploring the idea that hiking, walking, and spending time outside can become a form of meditation, and why nature often makes it easier for us to slow down.

Today’s guest is Brian Berneman. With a background in neuroscience and more than 15 years of experience teaching and practicing yoga, meditation, mindfulness, and other healing modalities, Brian blends modern scientific understanding with ancient wisdom to help people cultivate healthier, more intentional lives. He has taught hundreds of workshops around the world, empowering people from all walks of life to realize their full potential and live more meaningful, less stressful lives.

Brian also spent two years studying Tibetan Buddhism, yoga, and meditation through the teachings of Tibetan Lama Tarthang Tulku at the Ratna Ling Retreat Center. He’s also the co-founder of Conscious Action, a global movement encouraging intentional living, and You Being You, a platform offering practical lifelong wellbeing pathways for heart-centered, conscious living.

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During this week’s public lands news briefing on the Outdoor Minimalist podcast, we have two feature stories for you.

What we cover this week:

1. Oak Flat, a sacred indigenous site and popular rock climbing destination in central Arizona, was transferred to a multinational mining company featuring Jason Keith from the Access Fund.

2. Southern Texas is battling to protect Big Bend National Park and the surrounding landscapes from the proposed border wall, featuring Bob Krumenaker, a core member of Keep Big Bend Wild and former superintendent of Big Bend National Park.

And no, this is not all that’s happened with public lands this week. So, as always, make sure you’re subscribed to our weekly newsletter at theoutdoorminimalist.com for more in-depth public lands and outdoor industry sustainability news.

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Episode Resources

Save Oak Flat: https://www.accessfund.org/action-alerts/save-oak-flat

Keep Big Bend Wild: https://keepbigbendwild.org/

No Big Bend Wall: https://nobigbendwall.org/

CPB Smart Wall Map: https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/along-us-borders/smart-wall-map

NPCA: https://act.npca.org/page/94625/action/1?ea.tracking.id=ActionCenter