In 2023, we released an episode about eco-anxiety that quickly became one of the most listened-to conversations on this show, and landed us our first award.

But honestly, that didn’t surprise me. More and more people are feeling overwhelmed by the state of the world—whether it’s the climate crisis, the 24-hour news cycle, political instability, or just the constant sense that everything is happening all at once.

So in episode 220 of the Outdoor Minimalist podcast, I wanted to revisit that topic, but from a slightly broader perspective with the help of my guest, Laura Hartley.

Laura is a leadership coach & climate activist helping changemakers deepen their impact while living their most thriving life. Fascinated by the relationship between inner and outer change, Laura bridges systems thinking with self-work to empower changemakers with the skills of dismantling capitalism and patriarchy from the inside out.

Together, we explore how eco-anxiety fits into the wider landscape of burnout, information overload, and the pressure many people feel to personally “fix” the world’s problems. We talk about how our economic and cultural systems—things like individualism, capitalism, and the myth of the lone hero—shape the way we experience stress and responsibility in the climate movement.

But we also explore the other side of that conversation: community, hope, and how reconnecting with each other—and the natural world—can change the way we navigate these feelings.

An important note before we hear the interview: This episode discusses topics like anxiety, burnout, and emotional responses to climate change. However, neither my guest nor I are trained therapist or mental health professional. This conversation is meant to explore ideas and share perspectives, not provide medical advice. If you’re experiencing severe anxiety, distress, or other mental health symptoms, please consider seeking support from a qualified mental health professional.

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Laura Hartley

Website: https://laurahartley.com/

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This week’s public lands news briefing covers:

1. Recent Big Bend border wall lawsuits with Laiken Jordahl (Center for Biological Diversity)

2. The proposed FY2027 Department of the Interior budget and its impacts on BLM lands with Chris Hill (Conservation Lands Foundation)

3. The Senate’s passage of H.J. Res. 140, overturning Boundary Waters mining protections

Resources & Links:

Senate roll call vote for H.J. Res. 140: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1192/vote_119_2_00084.htm

Call the U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

Center for Biological Diversity: https://biologicaldiversity.org

Conservation Lands Foundation: https://www.conservationlands.org

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What if the most sustainable outdoor product… is one that you never buy in the first place?

The outdoor industry has spent years talking about circularity—repair programs, resale platforms, and recycling initiatives designed to keep gear out of landfills. But there’s one idea that rarely makes it into the conversation: renting.

In episode 219 of the Outdoor Minimalist podcast, I’m joined by returning guest Reet Singh, co-founder of TripOutside, to explore a question that could reshape how outdoor gear is designed, sold, and used: Is renting the missing link in a truly circular outdoor economy?

Reet argues that many of the products we buy—skis, kayaks, mountain bikes, even backpacks—are used only a fraction of their lifespan before spending most of their time sitting in garages or closets. What if brands made renting those products just as easy as buying them? And what if that shift could reduce waste and lower costs for consumers, all while still being profitable for companies?

Reet Singh is the co-founder of TripOutside, a platform that helps people discover and book human-powered outdoor adventures through local outfitters. When he’s not building tools to help more people get outside, you can usually find him mountain biking, scrambling peaks, snowboarding, or introducing someone new to their first outdoor adventure.

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Trip Outside

Website: https://tripoutside.com/

Email: stoke@tripoutside.com

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