When the Walls Came Down: Where God Met Us in the In-Between In Episode 9, Carmen and Pat sit down for a conversation that starts with communication but naturally unfolds into something much deeper. Together, they reflect on the moments God used, often quietly and unexpectedly to bring their hearts closer. We talk about Carmen’s love for horseback riding and the beautiful ways God met and strengthen us through that passion. From there, we look back on long walks on Davis Islands during Covid, when life slowed down and time together became sacred. Those walks created space for walls that had been built over many years to slowly come down. This episode is about the gift of intentional, one-on-one time and what can happen when we choose to listen without rushing, fixing, or filling the silence. Pat shares how those moments helped her understand Carmen’s heart more deeply, and how creating a safe, unhurried place allowed Carmen to open up and share freely. More than anything, this conversation is a reminder that God often meets us in the in-between. He mets us in the walks, the hobbies, the quiet moments, and the time we choose to give our kids. Parents this is so important. When we make room and stay present, the Holy Spirit gently does the work of softening hearts, breaking down walls, and growing connection in ways only He can. If you’re a parent longing for deeper connection with your child, let this episode remind you that it doesn’t have to be perfect—it just has to be present. God is already at work in the in-between.

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In this special bonus video for Episode 8, Is Everything OK With Your Heart? Learning to Unpack What We Carry, Pat goes deeper into the heart-check questions that sparked so much reflection in the main episode.

This intimate conversation creates space to unpack what we’re really carrying beneath the surface: unspoken hurts, lingering worries, broken trust, and emotions we often overlook. Building on Proverbs 3:5 and insights from Enemies of the Heart by Andy Stanley, this bonus dives deeper into the importance of daily heart awareness and inviting God into the hidden places of our lives.

Pat reflects more personally on the power of asking intentional questions, listening closely to the Holy Spirit, and allowing Scripture to guide us back to truth when emotions try to take the lead.

This bonus is an invitation to slow down, check in with your heart, and honestly assess what may be impacting your relationship with God and others.

In Episode 8, Is Everything OK With Your Heart? Learning to Unpack What We Carry, we welcome a very special guest, Carmen!!! She is making her podcast debut and we are so excited to share her with you guys! This episode is a heartfelt and honest conversation about what it looks like to intentionally unpack our hearts so we can live healthy, free, and open to what God has for us. We center our conversation around Proverbs 3:5, reflecting on Carmen’s personal struggle with trust and how Scripture has played a key role in shaping her faith. We also draw from Andy Stanley’s Enemies of the Heart, exploring the importance of recognizing what we’re holding onto before it quietly affects our hearts and relationships.

This episode is filled with encouragement on memorizing Scripture, listening to the Holy Spirit, and bringing God’s Word back to the forefront when emotions, worries, or past hurts resurface. Pat also shares the simple but powerful heart-check questions she asked every night—questions that created space for honesty, healing, and deeper connection. As we learn what it means to unpack our hearts daily, we’re reminded that a healthy heart leads to freedom, openness, and a greater awareness of God’s presence. This conversation also lays the foundation for our next episode, where we’ll dive even deeper into communication.

Heart-Check Questions We Discuss: * Is everything OK with your heart? * Are you mad at anybody? * Did anyone break a promise? * Did anyone hurt your feelings? * Is there anything you need to tell me? * Are you worried about anything? Connect with Our Perspective 💛 Instagram @ourperspective.podcast 💛 Follow Patricia @patricia_6710 💛 Follow MG @ _marygrace_d