Just when you thought the Gypsy Rose saga couldn't get any messier, her baby daddy, Ken Urker, turns up dead and the internet goes into full detective mode. So, were we wrong? Were her critics right all along? Is Gypsy Rose really a cold-blooded manipulator who never suffered at the hands of her mother? Did she orchestrate the grift, crave the attention, and somehow find herself at the center of another tragedy? In this episode, we're diving into her possible motivations when she was behind bars all the way to now. TRIGGER WARNING for Gypsy and Ryan being sexy on the phone.

LINKS:

Gypsy tells Ryan to put a toy in his butt (I'm so sorry): https://www.reddit.com/r/GRBsnark/comments/1vr4i9y/ryan_anderson_shoving_an_object_up_his_butt_for/

Gypsy tells Ryan she can't get off with him:

https://www.tiktok.com/@bbbooty4/photo/7678769530310528269r=1&t=ZT-9ATe7ibM38n

Gypsy recops her unhinged actions when she thought Ken was cheating: https://www.tiktok.com/@true.crime.verdic/video/7694741587766545666r=1&t=ZT-9ATe4crL3ny

https://www.tiktok.com/@true.crime.verdic/video/7694743420304133398r=1&t=ZT-9ATdzPi8lg5

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Back to the Bro Eggs Benedict we dove into last time, this time we look at the autopsy for Leo and Longevity (his name is bad) and the accounts from the relevant parties. Who had the motive to kill Leo, and did Connor unalive himself? What do you think?

LINKS:

Cops probe mysterious death of Leo and Longevity (Daily Mail): https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-11696417/Cops-probe-mystery-death-popular-American-penis-enlargement-YouTuber-Leo-Rex-34.html

Jon Bravo on the Autopsy: https://youtu.be/xqzIhVqvPUw?si=i9RMLpt89JdGBLkV&t=435

crime scene details from Lucie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OnGoxIv_z0&t=170s

That terrible Lady Boy or not video: youtube.com/watch?si=QXL0xi9yZuoUGoP3&v=I-306RiGTJo&feature=youtu.be

Connor's weird tribute video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QtDtdBnm9i0

coach kolton video: youtube.com/watch?si=00v6cKADYZJimpoj&t=1426&v=ioRSPFOiTWo&feature=youtu.be

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A distinctive hairstyle and an attitude that seemed to say, “I’ll make your day a living hell,” helped catapult Kate Gosselin to fame as the star of her own reality TV show. What began as a Discovery TLC special evolved into a long-running series documenting Jon and Kate's life as they raised their twin daughters and sextuplets.

Being a famous woman already comes with intense public scrutiny, and Kate’s reputation was hardly helped by her loud, controlling personality or by a husband who often appeared incapable of handling basic household tasks. The tabloids had a field day with Kate and the implosion of her marriage. Now, with the recent public reemergence of one of her estranged children, the backlash against her has returned.

In this episode, we revisit the Gosselin family's rise to fame and fall from grace, and explore whether Kate truly deserves the level of criticism she continues to receive from the public.

LINKS:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gosselinssnark/comments/1vryzqx/kate_gosselin_how_she_fooled_the_world/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1fe30pv/collin_gosselin_opens_up_about_physicalemotional/?share_id=4wsaXZeXdpOufoTXGypA0&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

https://www.reddit.com/r/funnyvideos/comments/12fxh6i/when_you_have_done_something_wrong_but_no_idea/

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Today, we explore a mysterious death/unsolved murder the morally fetid world of online bro science, which is a term I’m using to broadly define a mix “bodybuilding” & “biohacking”, content with a dash of early looksmaxxing and a big old glop of “alpha male” influencer douchebaggery right on top, like a hollandaise sauce of toxic masculinity with a generous sprinkling of steroids on top.

Leo Rex’s death: Yahoo News 1/31/23 article - https://www.yahoo.com/news/youtube-penis-enlargement-grifter-suffers-184254234.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAI-Gpk2D_Xor6Ult5xUvVl34JY3ZuJ7-x1wLMp5D_wdG4073TDygqN6uTaU8qdSUDmmXnV8pekb_jON7OsvyvoO4YHYxYvbkQORfWicF6QRam_zFqhiZrWNXEcR0eF6oiecLcnjFbvTsEus0hZoyClISpsj_tciIdEjYfJbWMAyp&guccounter=2

Daily Mail article 1/31/23 - https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-11696417/Cops-probe-mystery-death-popular-American-penis-enlargement-YouTuber-Leo-Rex-34.html

How to Build a Better Penis - youtube.com/watch?si=CmPzn9vjdcIJOeuP&v=378uj2OWAXU&feature=youtu.be

Connor Murphy

Connor Murphy Natural Body Transformation (5M views) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqbRiNbm5WA

Connor Murphy goes grocery shopping - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsj6vLx2r-c

The Connor Murphy Fake Shirt Trick (63M views) - https://youtu.be/jmQtSMIrHsc?si=btOEsNzRy51IfpFi

“I’m having a mental breakdown and I need help” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kQo8lDIpZQ&t=1s

Tony Huge

Basically he’s a steroid dealer: VICE vid - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WvVHnBrHqM&t=1s

DNP (weight loss drug) Guardian article - https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/oct/13/dr-huge-the-man-behind-uk-sales-of-dangerous-bodybuilding-drug-dnp

Deposition short re his DNP video series - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/83rbFiKEyls

Jon Bravo interview Tony Huge - what happened shortly before Leo died (to 55:36) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aztTj13Pw78&t=2695s

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With the upcoming release of Primetime, a film chronicling the rise of Chris Hansen and To Catch a Predator, Chris doesn't seem particularly excited about it. We break down a comprehensive timeline of the show, what Hansen was doing behind the scenes at the time, and why the movie may have him feeling uneasy. Plus, Nathan gets his first real introduction to To Catch a Predator and has plenty of thoughts.

We also talked a little bit about the downfall of Chris Hansen on the Patreon when we saw him at CrimeCon last September: https://www.patreon.com/OnlineBullshit/posts/crime-connnnn-138744773

LINKS:

Reddit Timeline of TCAP: https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/zf5q52/reality_tv_the_rise_and_fall_of_to_catch_a/

This is all publicity stunt: https://www.reddit.com/r/LowStakesConspiracies/comments/1wcz1x8/the_entire_chris_hansen_primetime_controversy_is/

Chris Hansen had to sign something to watch the movie: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DcSHlmKsptI/?stkn=MXh1bTQyaDF4dnF5bA==

TCAP Greatest Hits: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DcBWytGT0D3/?stkn=NnlwbzNvenU5c2s3

The creator of Black Mirror weighs in on TCAP: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2008/may/31/features16.theguide6

Chris Hansen from TV King to YouTube Con Man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZU7JRu8J64

Chris begs for money: https://youtu.be/RQfTy8XVJmI?si=8EmCWfXin-r9V6nu&t=1141

Skeet Hansen is the new host of his own TCAP type of show: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ou54X5-HXtc?is=lBlGY6B3o9s1MSA9

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Nathan is back! And yes, somehow we also have another Vagina Update.

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TRIGGER WARNING for Child Murder

This week Tawny fills in for Nathan, and we go through the conspiracy theories online about the Lindsay Clancy case. In January 2023, Lindsay killed her three children and attempted to kill herself... But online sleuths have created a whole different scenario wherein Lindsay's husband is the real perpetrator, and Lindsay is innocent. We do not believe these theories, and we discuss what most likely took place leading up to the murders. What's at stake is whether she was in psychosis and therefore not criminally responsible.

What do you think the verdict should be?

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Despite years of controversy and public skepticism, Sherri Papini continues to defend her story in a new book and documentary. She claims that her 22-day captivity was real, even though it involved an ex-boyfriend with whom she was having an emotional affair.

Katie lays out the facts, allegations, and unanswered questions for Nathan. Can she convince him that there's more to the story than most people believe?

LINKS:

Sherri's childhood trauma: https://www.reddit.com/r/thepapinis/comments/1kzzsxc/from_perfect_wife_episode_1_discussion_of/

Sherri's interrogation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXagEvi7Puo

The Affadavit US Gov vs Sherri Papini: https://www.justice.gov/usao-edca/press-release/file/1479901/dl

Justice for Brittany Hibdon - deceased wife of Sherri's new boyfriend, Shawn: https://justiceforbrittany.org/doctor-approved-love-a-disturbing-story-of-blurred-boundaries-and-ethical-failure-in-a-california-therapy-practice/

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