Most people have heard of oil and gas royalties, but very few understand how mineral rights actually work.

In this episode of The Wealth Transfer Podcast, Matt Templeton sits down with Tim Pawul, President of Minerals & Royalties Authority LLC and Partner at Tokenized Energy, to unpack the world of oil and gas minerals, royalties, non-operating interests, and energy investing.

Tim explains why mineral rights are often described as “underground real estate,” how they can produce passive income, and why they have become increasingly institutionalized over the last decade. He also breaks down how investors may be able to use 1031 exchanges, DSTs, royalty trusts, and IDC funds to diversify into oil and gas-related assets.

Whether you inherited mineral rights, are considering selling royalty interests, or are looking for tax-efficient ways to diversify beyond traditional real estate, this conversation offers a practical look inside one of the most specialized asset classes in wealth transfer.

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Tune in to the Minerals and Royalties Podcast for deeper conversations on mineral rights, royalties, non-op interests, deal trends, and energy investing.

🧭 Episode Highlights & Timestamps

[00:04] Mineral Rights Explained as “Underground Real Estate”

[00:07] How 1031 Exchanges Can Move Real Estate Wealth Into Minerals

[00:08] Four Ways to Access Oil & Gas Exposure: DSTs, IDC Funds, Royalty Trusts, and Direct Ownership

[00:17] Why IDC Funds May Appeal to High-Income Earners

[00:23] Publicly Traded Mineral and Royalty Companies

[00:28] Mineral Interests vs. Non-Operated Working Interests

[00:34] Why Mineral Rights Are Harder to Value Than Traditional Real Estate

[00:36] How Experts Evaluate Production, Geology, Infrastructure, and Future Development

[00:42] How Mineral Interests Can Hedge Against Energy Costs

[00:43] Common Mistakes Families Make When Inheriting Mineral Rights

[00:45] Suspense Funds, Lease Negotiations, and Hidden Value

[00:47] When Selling Mineral Rights May Make Sense