Tom interviews therapist and author Nicole Sachs about recovering from severe back pain diagnosed at 19 as degenerative spondylolisthesis. After learning surgery wouldn’t guarantee pain relief, she discovered Dr. John Sarno’s TMS model: chronic symptoms can stem from nervous-system dysregulation driven by repressed emotions and trauma. Sachs describes her work helping people worldwide, including Michael Porter Jr. and Steve Kerr, emphasizing three pillars: belief in brain science, doing “JournalSpeak” to make the unconscious conscious, and self-compassion. She explains symptoms as an “alarm,” not the “fire,” urges curiosity over fear, and directs listeners to resources at nicolesachs.com.

00:00 Meet Nicole Sachs

00:44 Back Pain Diagnosis Shock

03:03 Surgery Doubts Spark Curiosity

05:01 Discovering Sarno TMS

07:15 Recovery Stories Proof

09:47 Sarno Visit Trash Can

15:17 Growing Reach Younger Fans

20:39 Steve Kerr Turnaround

23:35 Pain Despair Hope

26:54 Mind Body Basics Explained

34:50 Fire Alarm Analogy

39:12 JournalSpeak Breakthrough

46:33 How To Start Today

47:19 Closing Curiosity Message

https://www.yourbreakawake.com/

https://www.youtube.com/@thecureforchronicpain

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