A short teaser host Sandja Brügmann in talk with John Fullerton, CEO Capital Institute, an American economist, investor, with a previous international career at JP Morgan, and author of the 2015 booklet, Regenerative Capitalism: How Universal Patterns and Principles Will Shape the New Economy in conversation with

This teaser is part of the full episode : A bold reimagination of economics and finance in service to life - to release on September 15, 2025

New Global Mind: A video podcast exploring brighter futures through leadership. A new series from The Passion Institute. Each episode explores innovative ideas, wisdom and strategies with cross-disciplinary experts in systems science, strategic transformation, human behavior, consciousness, sustainability, psychology, economics, spirituality, and technology.

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we're, trying to problem solve all of these crises, but we'll never problem solve without first shifting.

In a sense, it's a worldview shift to understand. the premise of my work is the economy is not a machine. It's a living system. And, there is a science of living systems. It's called living system science. And we've learned an awful lot about living systems in the past 50 years that we didn't know before that. But economics as a discipline and business and business management as a discipline, all predated.

the emergence of, we could simplify and just call it ecology, but it's a much more sophisticated understanding of how living systems from the microscopic right up to the planet itself and cosmologists believe the entire universe actually work.

About the host Sandja Brügmann, Founder & CEO of The Passion Institut —a strategic transformation institute—a global visionary in leadership and strategic transformation, engages thought leaders and practitioners to shape our collective future. Named one of the "World's Leadership Gurus" by Lederne and known as 'The Board Whisperer' among leaders, she is renowned for her expertise in systems awareness and strategic sustainable transformation. She and team empower forward-thinking organizations and leaders to cultivate the skills and strategies crucial for the transition. www.ThePassionInstitute.com

Host Sandja Brügmann in session with Kasper Bjørkskov, systems thinker, activist and founder No Objectives

The concept of efficiency, how much one can accomplish per unit of time or per dollar requires a quantitative numerator as well as a denominator. It requires a metric, therefore it tells us nothing about the result, we cannot quantify or measure.When we gear our society around efficiency, we produce more and more of the measurable, while the immeasurable, the qualitative and the things we don't think we're to measure drain away. And bedazzled by quantitative abundance, wemight not be able to see what we lost, but we definitely can feel its absence. And I think that is such a good explanation for how we got here, because we live in a system where we want to quantify everything. It's a system built on science and science needs to be backed by data and data needs to be able to be replicated in order to become science.Kasper Benjamin Reimer Bjørkskov is an architect, author, scientist and activist focused on turning minority insights into majority actions, making sustainability and social change accessible to all. He blends architecture, climate science, andregenerative economy to simplify complex problems into innovative, practical solutions. He is the founder and managing director of the non-profit No Objectives.

New Global Mind: Exploring brighter futures through leadership. A new video podcast series from The Passion Institute. Each episode explores innovative ideas, wisdom andstrategies with cross-disciplinary experts in systems science, strategic transformation, human behavior, consciousness, sustainability, psychology, economics, spirituality, and technology.

Host Sandja Brügmann, Founder & CEO of The Passion Institute—a strategic transformation institute—a global visionary in leadership and strategic transformation, engages thought leaders and practitioners to shape our collective future. Namedone of the "World's Leadership Gurus" by Lederne and known as 'The Board Whisperer' among leaders, she is renowned for her expertise in systems awareness and strategic sustainable transformation. She and team empower forward-thinking organizations and leaders to cultivate the skills and strategies crucial for the transition.

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