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Neuroinclusive Leadership: My Conversation with Ron Sosa

Neuroinclusive Leadership: My Conversation with Ron Sosa

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Hello again, I hope your week is getting off to a good start. On this episode of The Accessibility Advantage, I sat down with Ron Sosa, a neuroinclusive leadership coach, author, speaker, and Executive Director of the Uncharted Veterinary Conference. Ron and I talked about invisible disability, masking, and what it actually takes to build workplaces that don't burn people out for being wired differently and we ended up in a genuinely open, back-and-forth conversation rather than a straight interview. On With The Show Watch On Youtube Listen On Podcast Players Turning a Layoff Into an Opportunity Ron opened up about being recently laid off, and how that unexpected transition actually accelerated a plan he'd already had to move into his leadership coaching work full-time. He credited a conversation with a psychotherapist about "post-traumatic growth" the idea that adversity can either become something you wallow in, or fuel that pushes you forward. Ron's clearly chosen the latter, and it colored the whole conversation with a grounded, forward-looking energy. Recognizing the Signs Early and Having Them Dismissed Ron traced his own neurodivergence back to early childhood: sensory overwhelm from sock seams, an intense need for food certainty, and a year spent nonverbal around age four. A court-mandated family therapist actually diagnosed him as autistic when he was three years old but his father rejected the diagnosis and sought another opinion instead. Ron didn't learn about that early diagnosis until adulthood, after he'd already been independently diagnosed again and had to "come out" to his father a second time, only to be told, "Oh yeah, you got that when you were three." Growing up, he was the kid who couldn't sit still, made noise, and got moved to the front of the classroom to keep him from talking to his neighbors the kinds of behaviors he said get caught much more readily today, but back then were just written off. The Cost of Masking and Over-Adapting Ron walked through a four-part framework he's developed around what he calls the "internal world" of a neurodivergent person: chronic self-monitoring, over-adaptation, self-criticism, and physical tension carried in the body. He pointed out that even high-achieving, high-performing employees can be carrying all four and that businesses tend to only intervene when someone is underperforming, never when someone is over-functioning to the point of eventual burnout. That pattern, he said, shows up constantly with neurodivergent professionals: rising quickly into leadership, then quietly stepping back down or leaving altogether once the role becomes unsustainable only to repeat the exact same cycle somewhere else, because the underlying support never changed. Why "Reasonable Accommodation" Isn't Always Safe to Ask For One of the more sobering parts of our conversation was Ron's honesty about disclosure. He generally doesn't disclose a diagnosis in interviews or at work instead, he advocates for specific needs directly ("I don't always have the best memory for names, so a quick reminder helps me") without naming the disability behind them. He was clear that this isn't about hiding; it's about not knowing in advance whether disclosure will be safe, or whether an employer will actually treat it as a reasonable accommodation instead of a liability. We also got our first-ever live comment during a recording, from a viewer named Jared, who asked Ron directly about when to disclose a disability in a job interview. Ron's answer advocate for the need, not necessarily the diagnosis was one of the clearest, most practical pieces of advice in the whole conversation. Where Hiring Breaks Down We spent real time on how inaccessible the hiring process itself often is inaccessible applications, inaccessible onboarding documents, and a mountain of unwritten workplace rules nobody actually teaches new hires. Ron shared a simple practice from when he co-owned a veterinary business: telling candidates exactly what to wear to the interview, because leaving that unstated and then judging someone for "getting it wrong" isn't fair to anyone, neurodivergent or not. He also pushed back hard on requirements like mandatory eye contact in interviews, asking the real question underneath it: what does success actually look like for this role, and can that be achieved without eye contact? In most cases, the honest answer is yes which means the requirement was never really about the job to begin with. Invisible vs. Visible Disability Ron and I talked candidly about how differently the world reacts to visible versus invisible disability. As a blind man with a white cane, I don't get shunned for my disability the way people with invisible neurodivergent conditions sometimes are when they disclose. We also swapped stories about the strange assumptions people make like when I look directly at someone's voice out of habit and they insist I must be faking blindness, or when Ron pauses ...
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