In this episode, the conversation centers on confidence, belief, and what it really takes to keep going when the outcome is uncertain.

Through a personal story about Emily’s journey from rejection to opportunity, we explore what it looks like to believe in a dream long before it becomes visible to others. After being denied a coveted NBC page position, Emily continued building her life, her network, and her career without letting that initial rejection define her future. A year later, the opportunity she had once been denied came back around unexpectedly, forcing her to choose between comfort and growth.

This episode unpacks the emotional tension that comes with ambition, especially when pursuing something that disrupts stability, relationships, and routines. It highlights how confidence is not something you feel once everything is working, but something you practice when nothing is guaranteed.

At its core, this episode is about protecting your dreams, surrounding yourself with people who reflect your potential instead of your limits, and giving yourself permission to believe before the proof shows up.

Amanda, owner of Maven Roofing (North Jersey), shares the real story behind launching her company after a brutal season of life: shutting down a previous business during COVID, losing her dad, having a baby, and being buried under financial pressure.

Instead of quitting, she went into roofing sales, learned the industry fast, then launched Maven with a strong brand and a clear plan. She breaks down what it takes to earn credibility as a woman in a male-dominated trade, why hiring has been her hardest battle, and what she would do differently next time.

This is an honest conversation about leadership, process, people, and staying in the game when things get hard.

In this episode of The Not Fragile Podcast, Sabrina explores the difference between failure and self-sabotage, and why so many women in male-dominated industries feel pressured to explain, soften, or justify their setbacks.

Through a personal story about her son Evan and his unexpected career pivots, Sabrina reframes failure as information, not identity. She challenges the idea that success is linear and explains how avoiding ownership of failure often blocks the lessons that lead to real growth.

This episode is a reminder that you do not owe anyone perfection. Failure does not make you fragile. It means you are in progress.