What does it take for a family business to stay relevant for generations in a constantly evolving industry? That's what you're going to learn from today's conversation.

This episode is the result of my sitting down with Phillip Costikyan and Greg Garian at The RugCast podcast. We discuss a story of legacy, innovation, and unexpected reach–from small workshop beginnings to serving some of the most recognized institutions in the world.

NC has built a reputation that extends far beyond the rug and carpet industry. Over the years, our products have been used by NASA, the U.S. Department of Defense, and multiple military branches, proving that even highly specialized industries rely on precision, consistency, and trust.

But this episode isn’t just about surprising clients. It’s about evolution. From textile machinery to modern rug binding systems, our company has continuously expanded through innovation, acquisitions, and a refusal to stand still.

The discussion also touches on major industry players, including long-standing rug and textile institutions like Costikyan, framing how interconnected and legacy-driven this space truly is. It’s a reminder that behind every “boring industry” is a network of innovation, relationships, and decades of trust.

If you’re interested in legacy businesses, industrial innovation, or how niche industries power global systems, this episode gives you a rare behind-the-scenes look.

"When companies are there for you when the chips are down, that's something to be said for that." – Mal Maher

In This Episode:

- The 80-year history of NC Carpet Binding & Equipment

- How innovation drives long-term survival

- NASA as an unexpected customer

- Military contracts & government work

- From textile machines to modern rug systems

- Why acquisitions shape growth strategy

- The changing landscape of trade shows

- Technology’s role in rug manufacturing

- Industry relationships & long-term trust

- What long years in business can teach you

- Costikyan's encounter with Martha Stewart

Connect with Costikyan:

- Website - https://www.costikyan.com/

- The RugCast Podcast - https://open.spotify.com/show/0Gtq2QvP8pxRY8P8Vjv3lm

Connect with Mal and NC Carpet:

- Website - https://www.n-ccarpet.com/

- Facebook - https://web.facebook.com/nccarpetmachines/

- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/nc_carpet_binding/