For some people, Smash Mouth begins and ends with a handful of massive hits. But the band's story goes much deeper than "All Star," "Walking On The Sun," or their immensely popular take on The Monkees’ "I'm A Believer."

This week, founding bassist Paul De Lisle joins me to look back at the road that took Smash Mouth from the ska-punk energy of Fush Yu Mang to multi-platinum success, movie soundtracks, internet memes, and a place in pop culture that few bands ever achieve.

We talk about the band's early days, getting signed to Interscope, the evolution of their sound, and why Smash Mouth always seemed to have a knack for turning cover songs into something entirely their own. We also dive into the unexpected afterlife of "All Star," from Hollywood blockbusters and Shrek to becoming one of the internet's most enduring musical touchstones.

Along the way, Paul reflects on Steve Harwell's legacy, what it means to honor the past while continuing forward, and why now felt like the right time for Smash Mouth to return with their first album of original material in more than a decade, Mercury Comet.

If you've ever wondered how a band navigates fame, reinvention, loss, and longevity while remaining unmistakably itself, this conversation is for you.

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FUEL has always lived in that space between legacy and forward motion—where the songs become bigger than the moment they were written, and the story keeps evolving long after those charting moments.

This week, Carl Bell joins me to reflect on that long arc of the band: from the early days of “Shimmer” and “Hemorrhage” finding their way into the fabric of rock radio, to what it means to still be performing those songs with audiences who never stopped singing them back. We get into how those tracks change over time—not just for listeners, but for the person who wrote them—and why some songs seem to refuse expiration dates.

We also dig into the current chapter of FUEL. With new energy in the lineup and a renewed sense of purpose around their new album Pendulum, Carl talks through what it looks like to build something that honors the past without being trapped by it. That balance shows up everywhere here—from the writing of new material like “Want It,” to reworking the band’s classic track “Innocent” with a different perspective and voice at the center.

There’s also a broader conversation about identity and endurance—what actually defines a band like FUEL after lineup changes, industry shifts, and everything in between.

At its core, this is a conversation about staying in motion—about what it takes to keep creating, evolving, and showing up for the songs that never left.

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Think narrowing twenty-five years of dance music down to ten songs was difficult the first time? So did a lot of you!

After our first dive into 10 of the biggest dance tracks of the last quarter century, the messages started rolling in. Some of your favorites were missing. Some songs sparked spirited debates. And more than a few people reminded us just how impossible it is to squeeze twenty-five years of dance-floor history into a single list of ten tracks.

So we're back for Volume 2.

This week, Jay Sweet joins me once again to spotlight ten more songs that helped define the sound of parties, clubs, weddings, road trips, and playlists from the early 2000s through today. These aren't leftovers—they're ten more essential tracks that left a lasting mark on pop culture and kept people moving for years as well as decades.

We'll revisit the artists, moments, and musical shifts that helped shape modern dance music while making the case for why these songs deserve a place in the conversation.

Whether you agreed with our first list, disagreed with every pick, or just came ready for another excuse to turn the volume up, this episode proves there's no such thing as a definitive list when it comes to twenty-five years of dance music.

Get ready for ten more songs, plenty of debate, and two guys who still couldn't dance if our lives depended on it!

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