Crises don't check your calendar. Pat and Will walk through why smaller nonprofits are more vulnerable than you think, how to build a response plan in one afternoon, and real stories of what works when everything goes sideways.

Growth might be the worst thing that could happen to your organization right now. That's not a typo—it's the uncomfortable truth nobody talks about in board meetings.

In this episode, Pat and Will tackle the growth trap that destroys organizations. You'll discover why some of the healthiest organizations have been the exact same size for years, the four wrong reasons people pursue growth (and the three right ones), and how to create margin through ruthless prioritization.

Before Will moved into consulting, he spent years in professional theatre. And here's what nobody talks about: the skills that make great theatre are the exact skills that make great leadership. We're talking about why leaders who skip rehearsal end up winging it when it matters most. How "yes, and" changes everything when your team hits a crisis. What stage presence actually teaches you about showing up grounded when everyone's looking to you. And why ensemble work—not just teamwork—is what keeps organizations from falling apart under pressure. Plus real stories of when theatrical instincts saved the show.