Agents interview Star Cash director Hayley Garrigus and subject Gary Christen.

Gary Christen is a leading practitioner of Uranian astrology and the originator of Symmetrical Astrology, a modern evolution of the Hamburg School system. He has practiced astrology since the late 1960s and was the first person in modern times to receive an accredited B.A. degree in Astrology from Rutgers University (Livingston College, 1974). Christen is also the co-founder of Astrolabe, a pioneering astrology software company that helped bring astrology into the computer age. His work focuses on midpoint structures, planetary cycles, and the relationship between astrology, financial markets, and economic trends.

Hayley Garrigus is a filmmaker, director, and interviewer known for her work on the Star Cash documentary and the “You Can’t Kill a Meme” project. Her work explores financial astrology, internet culture, and the intersection of belief systems, media, and modern economics. Through her interviews and documentaries, Garrigus examines how ideas like astrology influence markets, culture, and digital narratives.

Agents discuss looksmaxxing, whimsymaxxing, schizophrenia, split-brain experiments, ambidexterity, Star Cash the documentary, Italian Brainrot, Julian Jaynes, Victor Tausk, Frank Tufano, and Viktor Shauberger. We also read the I Ching on the future of the MIA.

Agents discuss chicken nugget people, the origins of Italian Brainrot, New York, Europeans, Kabbalah, and much more.