Caitlin sits down with Alex Charfen, founder of The Brotherhood Society and creator of the concept of masculine containment, for a conversation that goes way beyond relationship advice.

Alex has been working with men online since 2007 and spent years studying why the same patterns keep showing up in relationship after relationship regardless of who either partner is. What he found is that most men were never given an actual initiation into how to lead themselves, and that religion, conditioning, and childhood wounding filled that gap with something that looks like leadership but produces the opposite.

The conversation covers the trigger, escalation, rupture, withdraw, repair cycle that shows up in almost every relationship and why repair is the wrong thing to focus on. What masculine containment actually means and why it has nothing to do with dominance over anyone else. Why men who stop reacting and start regulating often find that everything in their lives, including their businesses, changes dramatically. The role obligation sex plays in destroying intimacy and how so much of what religion teaches men about their wives is producing the exact opposite of what they actually want.

Caitlin brings her own lens to all of it, including how Christianity trained her to elevate men at her own expense, what it looks like to finally stop doing that, and how this connects to everything she is exploring in Mental Hell, her documentary on the link between evangelical Christianity and mental health.

Find Alex:

The Brotherhood Society: https://thebrotherhoodsociety.com

Masculine Containment: https://masculinecontainment.com

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