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In this episode, Matt Stauffer is joined by Cynthia McGillis to talk about her unlikely path from English major and nonprofit fundraiser to leading marketing at Laravel.

They discuss what it’s like to market developer tools as a non-developer, how Cynthia helped launch Laravel Cloud, and why the Laravel community feels different from other dev tool ecosystems. The conversation dives into Laravel Cloud features users still don’t realize exist — including auto-scaling, hibernation, preview environments, and the CLI with tinker — along with the challenges of pricing, onboarding, and scaling a modern hosting platform.

Matt and Cynthia also explore how AI is reshaping workflows inside Laravel, including how the marketing team is using Claude Code to generate weekly kickoff decks from Linear and Hex APIs, vibe-code landing pages without a CMS, and operationalize a fast-moving marketing org.

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