Marcus and Amber Capone open up about his sixth ibogaine experience, the one word that defined it, and what it means to surrender during the hardest year of their lives. Subscribe for new episodes every week.

In this episode of Conversations with the Capones, Marcus and Amber sit down to talk about his decision to return to ibogaine for the sixth time in eight years—after the Netflix premiere of In Waves in War, a cross-country move, and the growing demands of Tara Mind. When Amber asks him to describe the experience in one word, his answer is immediate: God.

This conversation explores what surrender actually looks like for a veteran—not giving up, but letting go of the things that don’t matter so the things that can do fall into place. Marcus contrasts his first ibogaine experience with his sixth and they discuss neuroplasticity, the ski-tracks analogy for building new habits, and why discipline holds it all together.

They also open up about losing their close friend Dr. Nolan Williams, the Stanford neuroscientist who led the landmark VETS-Stanford ibogaine study, and recommit to the mission he helped define.

In this episode:

• Marcus’s decision to do ibogaine for the sixth time

• First experience vs. sixth: from darkness to light

• The ski-tracks analogy for neuroplasticity

• Amber’s perspective on faith and psychedelic-assisted therapy

• The 8-minute NSDR reset

• Honoring Dr. Nolan Williams

• Why the hard work begins after the “aha” moment

For veterans, military families, first responders and anyone navigating healing, faith and transformation.

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CONNECT with Amber and Marcus

Website: https://thecapones.com/

VETS: https://vetsolutions.org/

Tara Mind: https://taramind.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcus_amber_capone/

ABOUT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CAPONES

Amber and Marcus Capone are the co-founders of VETS (Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions).

Marcus is the co-founder and chairman of VETS and a former Navy SEAL who served 13 years, including multiple deployments. He is also the CEO of Tara Mind, where he is expanding affordable access to psychedelic-assisted therapy for non-veterans.

Amber is the co-founder and CEO of VETS, an entrepreneur and a leading voice in mental health advocacy and human transformation.

Conversations with the Capones is a space for honest conversations about relationships, healing, leadership, identity and growth. Rooted in lived experience, this podcast is for anyone committed to evolving—no matter their past, present circumstances or where they are starting from.

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