Shark fisherman Joel Nancarrow says the great white that killed a swimmer at Sorrento Beach in Perth should have been hunted down. Adam McDonald's view is that it's the risk you take when you swim, and the Man Cave gets heated. Then Luke asks about dangerous dogs, and Adam comes round, as long as it's the right shark.

Joel runs Hunter Shark Jaw Restoration in Newcastle. He explains how a jaw is restored, why he buys jaws from commercial fishermen rather than selling what he catches, and why every bull shark he lands dies. A bite-resistant wetsuit surprised him more than anything else he's tested, though he says nothing would stop a shark the size of the one at Sorrento.

Joel's views on shark numbers and behaviour are his own, from years on the water. Some of them aren't backed by published research.

Joel's first interview with Luke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsX3Aq_UYqs

Should a shark that attacks someone be hunted down? Tell us what you think in the comments.

This interview contains strong language and discusses fatal shark attacks. If it raises anything for you:

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