Divorce was never the story Lisa TerKeurst wanted - but it became the story she had to live. In this powerful conversation, Jennie sits down with Lisa and theologian Dr. Joel Muddamalle to talk about unwanted divorce, what the Bible actually says about it, and how God meets us in the most devastating parts of our lives.

If you’ve walked through divorce, love someone who has, or feel paralyzed in a painful marriage, this episode is a tender mix of theology, story, and real hope. You’ll hear clearly: God does not hate you. He grieves with you, and your story is not over.

Follow Lysa
Follow Joel
Grab Her New Book

Resources & Links:
Be a part of what God is doing and give here
Listen to more episodes: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube
Learn More About Jennie
Follow Jennie on social:
Instagram
Facebook

Jennie’s new book is available for pre-order NOW! Grab a copy HERE!

Anxiety is everywhere right now - in our homes, our friendships, our every day lives. We’re carrying more than humans were ever built to hold. In this episode, Jennie gets honest about her own anxious season and what helped her climb out of the spiral.

You’ll hear why anxiety isn’t a sin, why you don’t have to hide it, and how healing often begins when you let someone else in. Jennie shares practical steps to care for your body, your emotions, and your spiritual life…and why gratitude, community, and help from others might be the turning point you need.

You are not alone in this. And you don’t have to stay stuck.

Resources & Links:
Be a part of what God is doing and give here
REGISTER TO HOST AN IF:LOCAL
Listen to more episodes: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube
Learn More About Jennie
Follow Jennie on social:
Instagram
Facebook

Jennie’s new book "The Lie You Don't Know You Believe" is available for pre-order NOW - GRAB A COPY HERE!

Waiting isn’t wasted. In the “slow burn” seasons - infertility, unanswered prayers, long obedience - God forms identity, deepens trust, and writes better stories than we could plan.

DawnCheré shares a raw, hope-filled framework for living faithfully in the middle: worship as a daily rhythm, community as oxygen, gratitude as a superpower, and surrender as strategy.

Follow DawnCheré
Instagram
Grab Her New Book

Resources & Links:
Listen to more episodes: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube
Learn More About Jennie
Follow Jennie on social:
Instagram
Facebook

Jennie’s new book is available for pre-order NOW! Grab a copy HERE!

Most of life isn’t a launch or a finish line. It’s the middle, mundane, conflicted, unglamorous, and that’s exactly where God grows our maturity, resilience, and trust.

Jennie names the “messy middle” we all live in: between starting and celebrating, between intention and fruit. Looking at scripture, parenting moments, and the behind-the-scenes of launching Gather25, she reframes the middle as holy ground. This is where perseverance forms character, trust replaces control, and faithfulness becomes the measure of a life with God.

Resources & Links:
REGISTER TO HOST AN IF:LOCAL
Listen to more episodes: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube
Learn More About Jennie
Follow Jennie on social:
Instagram
Facebook

Jennie’s new book "The Lie You Don't Know You Believe" is available for pre-order NOW - GRAB A COPY HERE!

Jennie and Zac sit down to tell the story of how they met, fell in love, got married young, and somehow made it through the messy years that almost broke them.

From long-distance letters to counseling breakthroughs, they talk honestly about what it takes to build something that lasts. They share the lessons they’ve learned about dating, engagement, community, and what it really means to stay when it would be easier to leave.

Whether you’re single, dating, or married, this conversation will remind you that love is built, not found - and God’s grace is the reason any of us make it.

Resources & Links:
REGISTER TO HOST AN IF:LOCAL
Listen to more episodes: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube
Learn More About Jennie
Follow Jennie on social:
Instagram
Facebook

Jennie’s new book "The Lie You Don't Know You Believe" is available for pre-order NOW - GRAB A COPY HERE!

Your 20s are overwhelming, daunting, and humbling in every way. So many of us fight to build the perfect plan, be known, and get it all right.

In this episode Jennie talks things she wishes she would have known in her 20's - about letting go of our plans, saying "yes" to God over and over again, and finding community where you can be fully known. If you’ve ever felt behind, uncertain, or alone, this one will remind you: you don’t have to have it all figured out.

Resources & Links:
REGISTER TO HOST AN IF:LOCAL
Listen to more episodes: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube
Learn More About Jennie
Follow Jennie on social:
Instagram
Facebook

Jennie’s new book "The Lie You Don't Know You Believe" is available for pre-order NOW - GRAB A COPY HERE!

What if the point isn’t platform, but friendship with God? Jennie sits down with Joe L. Barnes -worship leader, Grammy-winning songwriter (“Promises”), and tender shepherd-at-heart - to talk about obeying God’s voice, writing songs from real pain, and letting Jesus define success.

Joe shares how intimacy with God has become the anchor of his calling. You’ll also hear the beautiful Psalm 23 picture behind his project Good Shepherd (and a wild lesson about sheep, oil, and healing).

You’ll hear:
Obedience over optics: the one decision to follow God’s voice that opened every door
Good Shepherd theology: why “You anoint my head with oil” means protection, healing, and rest for anxious hearts
Collaboration & communion: real talk before great songs - and why we’re made for both
Grief & marriage: holding loss and love at the same time, and the legacy Joe wants more than platform

Follow Along With Joe
Instagram
Listen Now

Resources & Links:
GRAB YOUR IF ONE NIGHT TICKETS
Listen to more episodes: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube
Learn More About Jennie
Follow Jennie on social:
Instagram
Facebook

Jennie’s new book is available for pre-order NOW! Grab a copy HERE!

If you’ve ever been hurt by broken people in the Church - this episode is for you.

Jennie opens a raw and honest conversation about church hurt and what it means to still believe in the beauty of God’s design for the body of Christ. From her own story of planting a church to worshiping in mud-floored sanctuaries across the world, Jennie reminds us that while the church is messy and imperfect, it’s still God’s plan for our healing, growth, and belonging.

Resources & Links:
Listen to more episodes: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube
Learn More About Jennie
Follow Jennie on social:
Instagram
Facebook

Jennie’s new book is available for pre-order NOW! Grab a copy HERE!