Joining us on this week’s episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who isn't just focused on building businesses, but is also passionate about building a life that actually matters.

Trevor Mauch is the founder of Carrot, the software platform that has helped thousands of real estate investors and agents generate leads online.

Beyond business success, Trevor is a strong advocate for designing your company in a way that supports your health, freedom, and purpose, rather than becoming a trap that drains you.

In this conversation, Trevor shares the habits, marketing strategies, and mindset shifts that allow entrepreneurs to scale without sacrificing their personal lives.

He breaks down why most real estate websites lose deals, how to build online authority that ranks in both Google and AI searches, and why stacking credibility signals like testimonials and local content is now more important than ever.

If you’ve ever felt like your business owns you instead of the other way around, this episode will give you the clarity and tools to make a change. Enjoy the show!

Key Takeaways:

[02:15] Introducing Trevor Mauch and his background
[04:09] Building Carrot and lessons from scaling a software company
[10:39] Off-market vs. MLS. Why the best discounts come from networking and probate deals
[15:18] Why website performance directly impacts your deal flow
[18:38] How to optimize marketing for different real estate models
[19:17] Offline + online marketing work together
[23:47] Carrot sites are already ranking in ChatGPT results
[25:06] The future of search: one trusted answer, not endless results
[28:50] Building authority so algorithms rank you higher
[31:10] Trevor’s take on the biggest opportunity for investors today
[34:21] How to build online credibility with content, reviews, and testimonials
[37:47] Why your business will never outgrow your personal identity
[39:09] Breaking free from limiting beliefs that hold entrepreneurs back
[41:40] The Entrepreneur Freedom Formula explained
[46:37] What to do if your business is pulling you away from family, health, and faith
[51:42] The repeatable process builder that helps you delegate effectively
[55:28] How coaching helped Trevor grow Carrot to where it is today
[58:42] The “big unlock” that changed everything for him
[01:01:51] Evaluating the value of a business
[01:04:24] Carrot’s buy vs. build decision in acquiring InvestorFuse
[01:11:04] New AI tools that instantly summarize leads and streamline deal flow
[01:12:29] Outro

Guest Links:

Carrot Website: https://carrot.com/
Trevor Mauch Website and Podcast: https://www.trevormauch.com/freedom/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trevor.mauch/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thetrevormauch
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thetrevormauch

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In this episode of Living Off Rentals, we’re joined by an investor who has mastered one of the most powerful wealth-building strategies in real estate: the BRRRR strategy.

Austin Rutherford is an investor, developer, and author who built a $35 million rental portfolio by leveraging private money and executing BRRRR deals at scale.

In this episode, you’ll learn what the BRRRR strategy is and how to execute it like a pro, how to raise and use private money effectively, and the key pitfalls to avoid when scaling a portfolio with this model.

Austin’s story shows what’s possible when you stop flipping, start holding, and combine creativity with consistency.

Enjoy the show!

Key Takeaways:

[00:00] Introducing Austin Rutherford and his real estate journey

[04:39] The BRRRR method explained and how it works

[05:32] How does someone get a free house?

[06:14] The direct-to-seller marketing

[11:11] Chasing social media and chasing what somebody else was doing

[13:46] How to evaluate a good deal

[15:16] Two numbers to focus on when evaluating a deal

[19:28] Importance of due diligence in real estate investing

[20:34] How did Austin raise money for his investments

[21:40] Changing the mindset on money and giving people an opportunity

[26:13] Build-to-rent deals

[31:05] Austin's market recommendation, price point, types of property, and more!

[35:53] Biggest mistakes he made in his real estate investing journey

[37:23] His goal after a $35 million portfolio

[41:41] Connect with Austin Rutherford

[42:13] Outro

Guest Links:

Website: https://theaustinrutherford.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/austinrutherfordofficial/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AustinRutherford

Show Links:

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In this episode of Living Off Rentals, we are joined by an Air Force veteran turned real estate entrepreneur to discuss how military service can lead to financial freedom through real estate.

Chase Kincer is a cybersecurity professional, licensed real estate agent, and investor who has built a successful brokerage and investing business in Maryland. With over 140,000 followers on TikTok, he has become a voice for educating service members on how to maximize their military benefits and discover financial independence through real estate.

Listen as he shares how he went from driving hearses at 18 to closing his first real estate deals, the lessons he learned flipping houses, and how he helps other veterans avoid common mistakes with the VA loan.

Enjoy the show!

Key Takeaways:

[00:00] Introducing Chase Kincer and his background

[04:18] Learning about the VA loan and the benefits of the military

[06:06] Why most service members underutilize their housing benefits

[07:16] Helping enlisted members build wealth through education

[08:29] The real intention behind joining the military

[11:00] Why intentionality separates successful investors from the rest

[13:39] Chase's contractor issues and lessons from his first flip

[14:48] The AMEX hack: Using a military credit card to fund renovations

[17:40] Expensive mistakes: Flooded basements, permits, and learning the hard way

[22:52] Balancing the role of agent vs. investor

[24:58] Great lead source and great prospecting through cold calling

[27:20] How did Chase fund his first deal?

[30:13] His social media strategy

[32:32] Consistent posting, evolving strategy, and finding your niche

[38:19] His best piece of advice for someone working a full-time job and wants to get into real estate

[39:23] Chase's long-term goal in real estate

[42:15] Connect with Chase Kincer

[43:37] Outro

Guest Links:

Website: https://thekincergroup.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chasekincer

Show Links:

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Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals

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Joining us on this week’s episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who proves that you don't have to start big to change your life. You just have to start.

Shawn Gwaltney is a real estate investor and author of a new book called "Fear to Fortune: Rental Property Investment, The Side Hustle Blueprint to Financial Freedom." Over the past 35 years, Shawn has built several multi-million dollar businesses in manufacturing and real estate from the ground up.

Listen as he shares how he started without huge capital, how he overcame fear in the early days, why slow and steady growth beats high-risk moves, and the lessons he learned about financing, property management, and maintaining momentum.

If you’re waiting for that perfect time to invest, this episode will inspire you to act now! Enjoy the show!

Key Takeaways:

[00:00] Introducing Shawn Gwaltney and his background

[02:30] Getting into real estate and what his first deal looks like

[05:42] Overcoming fear and taking the first step into rental investing

[09:21] Rebuilding after a crash

[11:06] When you move, things happen

[12:58] Why one rental at a time can change your financial future

[16:13] What comes after financial freedom

[18:39] "Good cop, bad cop"

[21:13] How to choose the right properties for your first investment

[22:35] What are premium rentals

[26:33] Profiling a potential tenant

[30:39] Shawn's advice for other parents who want to be involved in the real estate business

[36:26] You can never reach a goal without clarity

[39:30] The importance of steady, consistent growth over time

[44:20] Connect with Shawn Gwaltney

[45:30] Outro

Guest Links:

Website: https://shawngwaltney.com/

Show Links:

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Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals

Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/

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Living Off Rentals TikTok – tiktok.com/@livingoffrentals

Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who has built a career around one of the most overlooked paths to passive real estate income: note investing.

Nathan Turner is the founder of Earnest Investing and an experienced mortgage note investor known as the “Canadian Note Guy.” Since 2009, he’s been buying and managing notes to generate steady cash flow, and he also runs the Diversified Mortgage Expo, a leading annual event for the note investing community.

Listen as he shares what note investing is, how it compares to owning rentals, where to find good notes, and the key due diligence steps to avoid costly mistakes.

He also talks about his first deal, the biggest lessons he’s learned, why note investing can be such a powerful, hands-off strategy for building long-term wealth, and how it’s a strategy that can go hand-in-hand with rental property investing.

Enjoy the show!

Key Takeaways:

[00:00] Introducing Nathan Turner and his background

[02:13] How he got interested in real estate investing

[03:55] Note Investing: Getting the same kind of cash flow without owning the property

[04:54] What exactly is note investing?

[06:18] Difference between being a lender and a note investor

[07:28] The pros and cons of owning real estate

[10:16] Minimizing the tax liability

[11:22] Nathan on investing notes on a specific type of deal

[14:08] How to find a seller finance note?

[18:08] Residential Mortgage Loan Originator

[18:27] Making sure that the borrower will continue to pay

[20:10] The foreclosure process

[24:18] Note investing is a cash business

[26:54] Average amount of time to hold the notes

[29:10] Common mistakes new note investors make

[31:25] Connect with Nathan Turner

[35:00] Think like the bank

Guest Links:

Website: https://earnestinvesting.com/

Show Links:

Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals

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Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals

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In this week’s episode of Living Off Rentals, we are joined by someone who has spent decades helping people align their investments with long-term impact— all while insulating wealth from market chaos along the way.

Paul Moore is the founder of Wellings Capital, a firm that helps investors create generational wealth through diversified commercial real estate. With over 26 years of experience and 85+ deals under his belt, Paul brings a deep, time-tested perspective to what makes a real estate investment truly sustainable.

Listen as he shares why self-storage, mobile home parks, and other overlooked asset classes offer long-term stability, how to avoid chasing “shiny object syndrome” in real estate, and what it means to make money while making a difference.

Enjoy the show!

Key Takeaways:

[00:00] Introducing Paul Moore and his background

[03:14] Getting retired early and going through all the work and stress of real estate

[04:17] The difference between speculation and investing, and why most people confuse the two

[05:42] Trading FOMO for FOMU

[08:32] Reason #1 to pass on deals: Lack of investor alignment

[11:55] The metrics and benefits of the deals Paul decided to invest in

[18:34] What makes mobile home parks and self-storage facilities recession-resistant

[19:10] Intrinsic value opportunities with self-storage

[22:22] What is true wealth?

[24:07] How impact investing can multiply your returns and legacy

[27:01] Investing should be boring

[32:05] Paul's biggest mistake and his warning for first-time investors

[37:36] Paul’s advice on choosing the right operator and syndicator

[41:31] Seven different paths for people to exit their 9-5 job

[43:00] Connect with Paul Moore

[43:42] Outro

Guest Links

Website: https://www.wellingscapital.com/

Interested in getting into commercial real estate investing? Visit: https://www.wellingscapital.com/resources

Show Links:

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Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/

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Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who helps property owners navigate one of the most stressful (and misunderstood) parts of real estate investing: insurance claims.

Andy Gurczak is the founder of AllCity Adjusting, a public adjusting firm that advocates on behalf of property owners to ensure they get the full payout they’re owed—not just the first offer the insurance company throws at them.

In this conversation, Andy breaks down the difference between public adjusters and insurance company adjusters, when to bring a public adjuster on board, and why most owners unknowingly leave tens of thousands of dollars on the table.

If you’re a rental property owner, this is a must-listen conversation that could save you serious money when disaster strikes.

Enjoy the show!

Key Takeaways:

[00:00] Introducing Andy Gurczak and his background

[02:22] What a public adjuster is and how they differ from insurance company adjusters

[04:49] What to do if your rental property burns down and any kind of other peril?

[06:40] Why you shouldn’t let your contractor handle the insurance claim

[09:40] How their fee structure works

[13:15] Why insurance companies don’t offer fair compensation upfront

[16:05] Common mistakes property owners make when filing a claim

[20:21] Specific coverages to look for when buying insurance

[23:28] Navigating major storm damage claims and the “games” carriers play

[28:03] Specific claim size to work with a public adjuster

[30:05] Connect with Andy Gurczak

[32:52] Outro

Guest Links:

Website: https://allcityadjusting.com/

Contact Number: 708-655-4186

Show Links:

Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals

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Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals

Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/

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Joining us on this episode of Living Off Rentals is someone who helps short-term rental investors find the best deals and scale faster using real data.

Taylor Jones is a short-term rental investing specialist at STR Search who helps investors build and grow profitable Airbnb portfolios.

Listen as he explains how to spot strong STR opportunities using real market and property data—and what red flags to watch for before you buy. You’ll also learn how amenities like pools, pickleball courts, fire pits, and even string lights can seriously boost your booking rates, and why great photography might be the most valuable amenity of all.

Enjoy the show!

Key Takeaways:

[00:00] Introducing Taylor Jones and his background

[02:05] How he got into the short-term rental data analysis space

[04:56] What makes a good, profitable Airbnb?

[08:45] Different means to identify the best properties

[13:46] What is bad data, and how to eliminate it?

[19:33] Improving data confidence and making an informed decision in rental data analysis

[21:21] Taylor's definition of market saturation

[30:04] Make the best available decision based on the data you have today

[35:50] How to analyze STR comps and project revenue with realistic low-mid-high ranges

[37:41] Pool vs. no-pool revenue boosts: $20K–$70K, depending on market

[41:26] Why photography is the most powerful STR investment

[44:58] STR investing is 80% data, 20% art

[45:32] Two paths to higher rates: More luxury or more value

[46:38] Matching amenities to your ideal guest demographic

[50:14] Outro

Guest Links:

Website: https://strsearch.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/taylor-jones-38997154/

Show Links:

Living Off Rentals YouTube Channel – youtube.com/c/LivingOffRentals

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Living Off Rentals Facebook Group – facebook.com/groups/livingoffrentals

Living Off Rentals Website – https://www.livingoffrentals.com/

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