How do you attract and develop strong leaders? When should you develop a leadership pipeline? What kind of culture invites people?

Matt Rose unpacks these topics and more in this conversation. Matt planted Orbit Church in Buckeye Arizona. Orbit is a dialed, impactful church reaching hundreds of people who are new to Christianity. Matt has successfully developed a healthy and solid staff and volunteer leadership team and an irresistible culture.

Follow them here: www.orbitchurch.org

🔥JOIN US FOR S2!

S2 IS A MAJOR CONFERENCE FOR CHURCHES THAT WANT TO GROW AND LEADERS WHO WANT TO LEAD BETTER.

Nov. 11-13

Speakers this year: Levi Lusko, Charlette Gambill, Jonathan Pokluda--plus outstanding breakout sessions. Click Here to Register while there's time!

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Is there a lid on your ministry? How do you prevent obstacles from slowing your church plant? What barriers are blocking your impact right now?

In this episode pastor Jon Kragel unpacks how to break through barriers with two powerful tools: Trust + Empowerment. While the terms might seem simple, the way to foster them is through principles Jon will offer. There's a lot of practical meat in this interview.

Jon planted Mission Grove Church prior to covid, survived the impossible in that season, moved countless locations, established a 24-7 faciltiy, and most of all built a healthy, thriving team and church that's now moving to three services in North Phoenix. Follow them HERE!

You're not going to want to miss this episode with pastor Jon. He's a practitioner in the trenches make magic happen--and has a powerful way of synthesizing complex ideas into bite-size practical application. And YES: We get granular in this episode!

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JOIN US FOR S2!

S2 IS A MAJOR CONFERENCE FOR CHURCHES THAT WANT TO GROW AND LEADERS WHO WANT TO LEAD BETTER.

Nov. 11-13

Speakers this year: Levi Lusko, Charlette Gambill, Jonathan Pokluda--plus outstanding breakout sessions.

Click Here to Register while there's time!

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⛪️ PLANT WITH US!

Interested in church planting? Let's start the conversation!

https://www.visionarizona.com/

What’s the real secret to lasting in ministry? In Mark 1, right after explosive crowds and miracles, Jesus withdraws to a solitary place to pray. This message unpacks why prayer, identity, and boundaries matter more than platform, success, or even opportunity. If you’re a pastor, church planter, or Christian leader struggling with burnout, pressure, or expectations, this teaching will give you clarity and conviction. Learn why Jesus said “no” to the crowd, how to protect your family and calling, and how to lead with strength that lasts.

📖 Scripture: Mark 1:35–39 🔥

Topics Covered:

Jesus’ model for leadership and ministry

Calling vs. potential Why crowds and success can crush you

Boundaries, family, and spiritual health How to resist burnout in church planting and pastoring

📍CHAPTERS

0:00 – The hidden danger of ministry success

2:05 – Jesus slips away before the crowd finds Him (Mark 1:35)

4:22 – Why prayer is the foundation of lasting ministry 7:18 – Calling vs. potential: what pastors often miss

10:44 – The pressure of crowds, numbers, and church growth

14:59 – Burnout, busyness, and the weight of expectations

19:27 – Protecting your family while leading a church 24:11 – Boundaries in ministry: learning to say “no”

28:36 – How Jesus modeled healthy leadership rhythms

33:02 – The difference between God opportunities and good opportunities

37:45 – Confusing giftedness with spirituality (a pastor’s warning)

42:19 – When ministry becomes an affair: the danger of misplaced love

47:03 – Finding your identity before the crowd defines you

51:56 – The hardest lessons from church planting and pastoring

56:22 – It is finished: why Jesus fulfilled His calling, not His potential

1:00:41 – Practical commitments for pastors and leaders today

⛪️ PLANT WITH US!

Interested in church planting? Let's start the conversation! https://www.visionarizona.com/