Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson, as they are whisked away to a small New England town to explore the backdrops of one of the best indie films of 2025, Sorry, Baby. They're joined by the film's intrepid Production Designer, Caity Birmingham, whose process over product approach to creative problem solving on set was integral to creating the world of the film.

Sorry, Baby follows Agnes' stumbling path towards healing after a bad thing happened to them in grad school. Told through a series of vignettes across a four-year time span, the film offers meditations on trauma, participation in patriarchal systems, the importance of connection, and how one good sandwich can turn things around.

From scouting locations that made the 'oner' sequence logistically possible to papering a small cottage with the texture of occupants past & present, Caity's keen eye for detail and commitment to creating 360 degree spaces on set brought so much life to Eva Victor's debut feature film.

You can follow Caity Birmingham on instagram at @playcait. Her website is caitybirmingham.com.

This episode is the finale of the fourth season of the show. Thank you to everyone who has listened this year! Don't fret though, film nerds! We will be back in the new year with a bonus episode all about our favorite movies of 2025. Until then... Happy Holidays, Film Nerds!

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A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!

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Join your hosts, Heather Elaine Abbott and Zoey Danielson, as they dive into the visual storytelling of makeup—or the intentional absence of it. Today, they’re joined by Sharon Tabb, the Makeup Department Head behind The Lowdown. Together, they explore the power of collaboration and how Sharon works closely with directors, actors, and fellow artists to create distinct, lived-in looks for each character, from purposeful eyeliner choices to the smallest details you might not notice.

Sharon also breaks down the art (and science) of creating realistic bruising, particularly for Ethan Hawke’s character, who takes more than a few hits over the course of the series. The conversation also touches on her incredible work on Reservation Dogs and what it means to shape stories through makeup in a way that feels honest, grounded, and deeply human.

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!

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Join your hosts, Heather and Zoey, as they dive into the world of documentaries with filmmaker and creator Elly Schmidt-Hopper. We first connected with Elly on TikTok after seeing her video about the current state of documentary filmmaking—and just how difficult it is to secure distribution, let alone funding.

From there, we dig into some of our favorite docs, ranging from No Other Land (2024) and The Gleaners and I (2000) to Roadrunner (2021), Beauty Is Embarrassing (2012), and more. Talking with Elly was a reminder of how special it is to connect with creatives who care this deeply... the whole conversation felt electric.

You can keep up with Elly on Instagram @schmidthopper and her website Spellbound Films!

A big thank you to Lee Walls (@Unapologetical.lee on Instagram and @Lee_FinalVer on Twitter) for our amazing Logo, M.L. Abbott for our theme song and Cody Schlabaugh for our cover photo (website).

A special thanks to Breanna Benedict for being our incredible Social Media Coordinator (website)!

We launched a companion newsletter to the podcast called First to Arrive! Subscribe here: lasttoleave.substack.com

You can keep up with all things Last to Leave here:

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