This is the second episode of the COMEBACKS series, featuring Liz Tran. I loved getting to talk with her again in this new format.

In this episode, Liz shares her experience with divorce, reinvention, dating, and what it actually takes to rebuild your life when the version you planned for falls apart. We talk about how loneliness can transform you when you stop trying to outrun it, the ways avoidance can masquerade as productivity, AQ (adaptability quotient), timelines, and learning to trust that your life can expand in ways you never could have planned for.

SHOW NOTES:

• Explore more from Katie Dalebout: Katie Dalebout Substack + Let It Out Lists
• Katie's Instagram: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout
• My Zine Shop and My Creative Clinic
• Find Liz on the Web | Instagram | Podcast
• Liz's latest book, AQ: A New Kind of Intelligence for a World That's Always Changing
• Liz's first book, The Karma of Success

If you liked this episode, try this one from the archive: Karma Success with Liz Tran, Founder of Reset NYC

In this first episode of the new COMEBACKS series, I spoke with my longtime friend Jessica Murnane about reinvention, knowing when to move on, and why I tend to linger in the past too long. We talk about creative pivots, grief around letting go, and starting again—without forcing it. Jess shares how she’s built multiple careers, moved cities, why she’s not nostalgic, and the simple question she always comes back to when she’s stuck: What are you waiting for? Let us know if you listen.

Key Insights:

• Starting something new can be the fastest way to let go of something old.
• Reinvention isn’t always strategic—it’s often a gut feeling that it’s time to move on.
• Lingering (in careers, relationships, identities) is often about fear, not timing.
• Nostalgia can keep us stuck.
• Success isn’t recognition or fame—it’s often feeling financially and emotionally steady.
• Movement is one of the best ways to shift your mental state when stuck, even just a few minutes.
• Aging narratives are mostly cultural noise—you don’t have to opt in. And extremely boring.

Show Notes / Resources / Mentions:

• Katie's Substack | IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Zine shop is here!
  Inside + Outside with Jessica Murnane
• Subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast player!

If you liked this episode, try this one from the archive: The Art of Tending: Kerrilynn Pamer, Founder of CAP Beauty, Returns

This week, a very important person in my life—Sacha Jones—hosts the podcast. Every year for nearly a decade Sacha has come back on to host the episode the last week of April (the week of my birthday). This year she really outdid herself: she shocks me with questions sourced from my friends and family and a special guest joins us to host a special rapid-fire round.

Sacha is one of the most creative, wise, and gentle people I know and our annual catch-ups end up being time capsules of what we’re leaning this year. Prior to her surprises, we cover focus while being people who do many things. And how much the little things—like simple routines, mean to me. I will be back on the other side of the interview next week but until then I hope this conversation offers you something, that you come away from it feeling the energy of it. Or that it keeps you company you during your day.

Show notes:

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