Two legendary songwriters, two very different approaches, and both talking with Kyle Meredith about what keeps the creative spark alive decades in. Joan Armatrading joins Kyle to discuss her 21st album, Not Too Far Away, why writing about love never runs out of angles, and her decision to write all the lyrics first so the emotion would lead the music. She also talks about keeping songs gender-neutral so more people can see themselves inside them, programming her own drums, and fully embracing the solo process. Then The Waterboys’ Mike Scott calls in to break down the ambition behind the double album Out Of All This Blue, his “no filler” rule inspired by classics like Exile On Main St, and how new love, fatherhood, and even making up songs for his daughter fueled a flood of creativity. He also dives into bringing funk and hip-hop textures into the mix and expanding The Waterboys into a nine-piece live band with two drummers.

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Mike Patton joins Kyle Meredith to talk about the unexpected collaboration with The Avett Brothers on their 2025 release AVTT/PTTN, a record that started as a remote experiment and quickly became what Patton calls a “third personality” with its own DNA. He dives into learning how to fit his voice into the brothers’ blood-bound harmonies, discovering Scott Avett’s lyrics felt eerily personal, and how most of the writing felt “frighteningly organic.” Patton also teases the 2026 tour kicking off in Louisville, promising a sprawling set that includes the full album, Avett staples, selections from Faith No More and Mr. Bungle, and some unexpected covers, all while reflecting on the idea that none of his projects are “side” gigs—they’re all the main event.

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Fenton Bailey and Randy Barbato stop by to talk with Kyle Meredith about their latest HBO Max documentary Murder In Glitterball City, a true-crime story that hits especially close to home since it was shot in Louisville, just blocks from where Kyle’s sitting. The World of Wonder founders (the same duo behind The Eyes Of Tammy Faye and Party Monster) dig into why this case — involving a body found in a Victorian mansion basement and two lovers blaming each other — demanded a different kind of true-crime approach, one that looks beyond the crime itself and into community, queer history, addiction, mythmaking, and the ghosts a city carries with it. Bailey and Barbato also talk about expanding beyond the source book, finding unforgettable local characters, navigating the responsibility of telling difficult LGBTQ stories honestly, and why this case still haunts them long after filming wrapped.

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