Matt and Georgia are joined by Georgie Healy, former Program Lead for Google’s AI Accelerator and creator of Attention Is All I Need, for a lively conversation about AI adoption, inclusion and the very human challenge of keeping up with rapidly evolving technology.

In this episode:

📰 The latest AI news The group unpacks:

• AI-related layoffs and whether AI is sometimes being used as a convenient excuse for restructuring
• The growing security risks created by autonomous agents
• New model releases and the impossible task of keeping up with them all
• The increasingly complicated relationship between data centres, housing, energy and public infrastructure

🧠 Are we still using our brains? AI can help us learn faster, explore new topics and stress-test our thinking - but it can also make it very easy to produce work we do not fully understand.

The group discusses:

• Why critical thinking and causal reasoning matter more than ever
• The risks facing graduates who rely on AI without understanding their own answers
• Why lived experience and systems thinking remain incredibly valuable
• How to use AI as a thought partner without creating yet more AI slop

🌍 Making AI feel more inclusive Why do some people embrace AI immediately, while others feel overwhelmed, excluded or actively resistant?

Georgie argues that AI literacy should be pro-people, not simply pro-technology. Rather than forcing people to use AI for work, adoption may be more effective when people can use it to create something useful, meaningful or genuinely fun.

✨ Using AI to bring ideas to life For the first time, people without traditional coding skills can build websites, create prototypes, explore hardware and turn ideas into something tangible - without necessarily needing a developer or CTO to get started.

👩‍💻 Who will shape the next era of technology? Georgie explains why women building cyberdecks, Tamagotchis, e-readers and other wonderfully niche hardware projects have changed her view of who will lead the next wave of AI-enabled innovation.

🔥 Plus, several hot takes:

• Georgia delivers an unexpectedly defence of M365 CoPilot
• Matt assigns everyone an unreasonable amount of homework
• Georgie explains why it is perfectly reasonable to feel complicated about AI
• The group concludes that technology can be useful, concerning and fun - all at the same time

A thoughtful, practical and occasionally chaotic conversation about creativity, critical thinking, representation and what it really takes to bring people along on the AI journey.