How should Christians think about deportation and immigration? In this episode pastors Ryan Kimmel, Jon Holman, and Jon Delger go deeper into the conversation surrounding deportation, justice, compassion, government, and the way Christians should think through divisive cultural issues. Rather than reducing the question to “Would Jesus deport people?” the conversation explores the deeper tension between justice and compassion—and why following Jesus means refusing to abandon either one.

Check out the full sermon: Can We Have Justice and Compassion?

• (00:00:00) - Cold Open: Framing Questions About Jesus and Deportation
• (00:00:45) - Welcome and Introductions
• (00:02:00) - Jesus and the Disciples Game
• (00:03:44) - Icebreaker: Fun Laws as King for a Day
• (00:05:54) - Phineas and Ferb and Pokemon Card Tangent
• (00:09:29) - Intro to Deportation Sermon Topic
• (00:10:53) - The Tension Between Justice and Compassion
• (00:12:24) - Personal Stories and Humanity in Deportation
• (00:15:03) - Jesus's Fully God, Fully Man Parallel
• (00:16:47) - Government's Role and Romans 13
• (00:17:54) - Why Jesus Teaches Through Parables, Not Just Rules
• (00:20:05) - Choosing the Render to Caesar Text Over Good Samaritan
• (00:21:27) - Pharisees' Trap and False Dichotomies
• (00:24:19) - Comparing Deportation to Nazi Germany
• (00:27:21) - Treating People Humanely Within the Law
• (00:28:56) - Reap What You Sow and Maintaining Laws
• (00:30:51) - How Framing Shapes the Deportation Debate
• (00:32:04) - Matthew 25 and the Least of These Reexamined
• (00:33:42) - Preview: Next Week on Christian Nationalism
• (00:34:33) - Encounter with Protesters at ArtPrize
• (00:37:06) - Defining Your Terms as a Christian
• (00:38:56) - When to Disobey Government Laws for God's Law
• (00:43:18) - Submitting to Government Even When We Disagree
• (00:45:56) - Closing Remarks and Prayer