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  • Season 4 Episode 3 - The Risks of Selling Your Practice

    Season 4 Episode 3 - The Risks of Selling Your Practice
    2025/08/02
    In this episode, Bob and Nate discuss the evolving landscape of dental service organizations (DSOs) and the implications for private practice owners. They explore the risks associated with selling to DSOs, the changing nature of DSO offers, and the importance of retaining control over one's practice. The conversation highlights the historical context of DSO contracts, the value of dentists in practice ownership, and the potential pitfalls of partnering with DSOs.
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    24 分
  • Season 4 Episode 2 - The DSO Dilemma: A Cautionary Tale

    Season 4 Episode 2 - The DSO Dilemma: A Cautionary Tale
    2025/07/21
    Bob and Nate continue discussing the implications of selling dental practices to Dental Service Organizations (DSOs). They argue that selling to a DSO can lead to financial loss and loss of control for dentists. The conversation highlights the hype surrounding DSOs, the influence of celebrity endorsements, and the pressure tactics used to encourage practice sales. The hosts emphasize the importance of maintaining ownership and the potential pitfalls of selling practices, urging dentists to consider their long-term financial independence. Put down the margaritas, understand your true value and make it work for yourself!
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    29 分
  • Season 4 Episode 1 - Navigating the Dental Landscape: Ownership vs. DSO

    Season 4 Episode 1 - Navigating the Dental Landscape: Ownership vs. DSO
    2025/07/16
    In this episode of 'Just Say No to the DSO', hosts Bob Spiel and Nate Williams discuss the implications of the DSO movement in dentistry. They emphasize the importance of private practice ownership, the challenges faced by dental practice owners, and the impact of insurance and government intervention on the industry. The conversation highlights the benefits of maintaining control over one's practice and the potential pitfalls of selling to a DSO.
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    30 分
  • Season 3 Episode 16 - Away Interview With Gary Bird

    Season 3 Episode 16 - Away Interview With Gary Bird
    2025/06/30
    Nate ventures out into the wilderness and is guest with Gary Bird for today's episode. This is a collabortive project and highlights the great being done to further the conversation around dentistry and it's future.


    For those not familiar, Gary Bird is the founding owner of SMC National, the dental industry’s top-rated marketing partner chosen by more than 60,000 dental professionals. A recognized thought leader, Gary hosts the popular shows Dental Marketing Theory and Dental Marketing Goat, where he shares evidence-based strategies that help practices grow revenue, attract high-value patients, and build winning teams. Under his leadership, SMC delivers performance-focused marketing (no restrictive long-term contracts) and data-driven growth maps that turn chaos into predictable results.

    Want to learn more about SMC? https://bit.ly/4kkRubd
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    1 時間 32 分
  • Season 3 Episode 15 - Dr Lou Berman Interview

    Season 3 Episode 15 - Dr Lou Berman Interview
    2025/06/20
    In this inspiring conversation, Bob and Dr. Lou Berman delve into the complexities of the DSO landscape, particularly within the field of endodontics. They discuss the financial implications of joining a DSO, the role of key opinion leaders in shaping the industry, and the impact of corporate models on patient care. Dr. Berman shares his insights from over 41 years in the field, emphasizing the importance of maintaining control over one's practice and the need for dental professionals to seek expert guidance before making significant career decisions. The discussion highlights the challenges and opportunities within the dental industry, advocating for a more informed approach to practice management and patient care.
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    43 分
  • Season 3 Episode 14 - Dr Mila and Daniel Cohen Interview

    Season 3 Episode 14 - Dr Mila and Daniel Cohen Interview
    2025/06/16
    In this conversation, Bob hosts Daniel and Mila Cohen, who share their journey of building a successful independent dental practice. They discuss the challenges and rewards of partnership, the importance of defining roles, and the strategies they implemented to ensure effective management and accountability within their practice. The conversation highlights the significance of communication, utilizing resources, and the need for clarity in leadership to foster a thriving business environment. In this conversation, Daniel and Mila discuss the challenges and strategies of building a successful dental practice post-COVID. They emphasize the importance of creating a strong team culture, the value of participation among team members, and the need for trusted advisors. The discussion also touches on exit strategies, the cons of selling to a DSO, and the significance of viewing challenges as opportunities for growth. Ultimately, they highlight the importance of fostering a problem-solving culture within the team to ensure sustainable success.
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    41 分
  • Season 3 Episode 13 - Dr Jill Tanzi and Dr Kristine Grazioso Interview

    Season 3 Episode 13 - Dr Jill Tanzi and Dr Kristine Grazioso Interview
    2025/05/26
    We are in for a double treat today as Bob interviews two incredible dentists, Dr Jill Tanzi and Dr Kristine Grazioso. Not only are we staying on the east coast for this episode, both of these amazing practitioners are passionate about dentistry and helping the patient get the best care. They are board and founding members of the Alliance for Independent Dentists, a nationwide group of volunteer dentists committed to educating dentists and the public about the benefits of Independent Dentistry. None of our board members are paid by the AID, ensuring that all dues and donations serve our community directly. Listen in for an amazing episode.
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    36 分
  • Season 3 Episode 12 - Dr Eric Block Interview

    Season 3 Episode 12 - Dr Eric Block Interview
    2025/05/14
    Bob is back and rolling with another great guest. We are headed to the east coast, just outside of Boston with Dr Eric Block. Dr. Block is a member of the American Dental Association, the Massachusetts Dental Society, and the American Academy of Cosmetic Dentistry and is a Fellow of the International Congress of Oral Implantologists. These type of credentials make him a perfect candidate to be courted by several major DSOs who are looking to add a talented dentist to their roster. However, Eric decided to stay in business for himself with amazing results. Hear his great story today!
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    25 分