Marc is joined by author and journalist Jon Ronson. They discuss Jon's new book "The Castle: Adventures in a World of Unravelling Men", explore examples of people who've been led towards extremism through "chasing the algorithm", and how the changing media landscape has contributed to lack of purpose, particularly amongst men. Plus, Jon reflects on the impact of some of his previous works including "Them" and "So You've Been Publicly Shamed", explains how Olivia Rodrigo helped him through the perils of both a gruelling tour schedule and a stint in hospital, and addresses the challenge writers face between "putting yourself into a story" versus being overly self-indulgent.

"The Castle: Adventures in a World of Unravelling Men" is out now to read or listen to on audiobook: https://jonronson.com/book/the-castle/

Marc Jennings"If & When" stand-up shows: https://www.marcjenningscomedy.com/live

Marc's interview with Adam Curtis: https://open.spotify.com/episode/22lsV2Pfvf8UyLzWwN8jNM

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