Emily interviews Brett and his regular bookclub group who set off for a week in the Colorado outback to commemorate their bookclub journey and commune with nature and each other. We talk about the nature of male friendships, midlife transitions and spiritual awakening.

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Brett & Emily take a look at the Chief's kicker, Harrison Butker's speech from Benedictine College that pushed a national hot button. The Mills talk about the larger conversation and the context in which Butker's speech took place.

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Brett & Emily sit down for a conversation with authors, ministers and old friends Chris and Julie Bennett about their new book, Fighting for Family. Amidst disappointments in ministry and move across the country, Julie survives cancer twice. Here, they openly discuss the impact on their marriage, kids and faith.

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