Stopping people from abusing children requires intervention long before harm is done — and long after someone has crossed a line.

In this episode, Jeremy sits down with StopSO, a UK charity specialising in therapeutic work with offenders and people at risk of offending, to explore how early intervention, behaviour change, and specialised therapy can protect children from sexual harm.

This conversation looks at what actually helps people stop, why punishment alone isn’t enough, and how prevention can reduce harm for children, families, and communities.

Antounette and StopSO bio

Antounette is Chair of StopSO, a charity offering specialist therapy to all those who have been impacted by child sex abuse. The main focus is the work with perpetrators, those representing a risk of sexual harm and those experiencing inappropriate thoughts and feelings.

This work is central to Antounette’s belief that to prevent sex abuse, we must work with those that are at risk, or who we wish would desist from this behaviour and to do so compassionately and non judgementally.

Under her chairship, the Charity has highlighted its commitment to provide therapy for survivors and all familiy members affected by abuse ,developed its work with other organisations, evolved new training for therapists in this specialist field, and launched a new approach to therapeutic intervention for those displaying sexual harm who are under 18. She is usually very busy!

After 32 years working in the Criminal Justice System as a Probation Officer, Antounette has a wealth of experience of ‘the system’s’ treatment of high risk offending behaviour, and the value of mainstream as well as more nuanced and pertinent approaches to the escalation of child sex abuse.

Antounette has previously specialised in work with violent offenders and mental health as well as running group work programmes for the service, writing Court reports and representing the Multi Agency Gang Unit in Birmingham. She retrained as a therapist when she was in her 40’s and feels privileged to have found a second career she feels passionate about.

Going forward Antounette has exciting plans to grow the work of the charity and to support this as best she can- with enthusiasm and a deeply held belief that therapy is a powerful but under supported process of change for individuals brave enough to take on the challenge of therapy.

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n this video, you’ll see the full recording of me delivering my primary school safeguarding session — designed especially for children in Years 3 and 4 (ages 7–9).

I wanted to find a way to teach body safety and online safety that actually connected — not just another formal talk that goes over their heads.

So, I turned safeguarding into one big game.

Together, we moved through different “levels” — learning about:

🎮 Rules that help us stay safe (Level 1)

💛 Feelings and what they tell us (Level 2)

👥 Who’s on our team (Level 3)

🗣 How to use our voice when something doesn’t feel right (Level 4)

The result?

They laughed, they learned, and they didn’t want the session to end.

Safeguarding and body safety are serious topics — but when we teach them through play, children listen.

If you’d like to see exactly how this approach works in a real classroom, this full recording shows the entire session — start to finish.

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Links mentioned below.

The clip I reviewed - https://youtu.be/moJ59Po9aPE?si=Qj_zqt6PigsRv7Eq

The full Mikhaila Peterson podcast - https://youtu.be/4qZoJooGHfY?si=fBDmQZcopePXto8j

The Teen Corn podcast that I mentioned in video - https://youtu.be/C_enOcVeTTw?si=OKaq9gXBhIbNwV07

Why didn’t the government act sooner? For years, concerns have been raised about the easy access young people have to online porn — and the potential impact it’s having on their developing brains. Now, new laws are finally being introduced in the UK to block under-18s from these sites.

But is it too late?

In this episode, we explore:

- The psychological and neurological effects of porn consumption

- How desensitisation and escalation can lead to more extreme content

- The links between compulsive porn use and real-world harm

- Why action to protect young people has taken so long

Watch until the end as we discuss the government’s latest move and whether it can undo the damage that may already have been done to today’s generation.

What do you think — did the UK wait too long?

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