**Trigger Warning/ Disclaimer**

This episode contains discussions of mental health, addiction, suicidal thoughts, and incarceration. These topics may be triggering for some listeners. Please take care of yourself while listening and pause, skip, come back another time, or step away if these topics are too sensitive on your heart.

If you or someone you know is struggling, please consider reaching out to a trusted person or a professional for support. You are not alone!**

If you're in the U.S., you can call or text 988 for the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline.

This episode is more than just a conversation... this is the moment Conversations from the Chrysalis - A My Journey Podcast was truly born. In the second half of Jay's interview, something shifted. What started as sharing a story turned into the day this podcast was born. This is the moment where I decided to create something bigger than myself... a space for real, honest conversations about healing, growth, and transformation.

These episodes will always be real, raw, and authentic. We tell the story exactly how it unfolds. You can't get any more natural than this.

This podcast is guided by the Butterfly Model framework that I created, to teach the stages of transformation:

~Egg - Awareness

~Caterpillar - Learning

~Chrysalis - Transformation

~Butterfly - Growth

Music Credit:Intro/Outro music beat by ‪@venomizill‬ / Ron Schmick - thank you for helping shape the sound of this vision!!!*Check out more of Ron's work here: / @venomizill

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