In this episode, BW Derge (drums) and Nick Ring (guitars)are talking about an improvised jam from January 2024.

Something about bowling? The jam’s got loops, reverb – all that jazz. “Jam”-uary, get it? Playing clue with effect pedals instead of weapons… maybe?

The jams are free, unlike bowling. Also – a review of the recent Puscifer, A Perfect Circle, and Primus 2025 spring tour. Possibly going to post the little video clip as a YouTube short… we’ll see.

Follow-ups from episode 7 – delay and reverb. Which is more complex? Free drum lessons for Ben? Video game playing islagging.

• · Switch 2 still too expensive.
• · Signals to aliens or each other?
• · Ads suck. HBO has commercials now?!
• · Still need to add jams to Spotify…
• · Listen on iHeart – is YouTube Premium worth it?
• · Episode 11: Upside Down Tree Jam is on YouTube.
• · Reverb is the space, not the echo. (Natural decay)
• · Delay is more complex, according to Nick. (Multiple delays!)
• · Getting old, talking about shoulder pain and massages

It’s turtles all the way down. BW Derge, drummer, andNick Ring, guitarist, talk about a jam from May the fourth 2024. Ninja turtles, sea turtles… all about turtles.

Turtle jam. We’re talking all about turtles. There’sninja turtles, Nick’s like a turtle, sea turtles, the phrase “turtles all the way down.” No follow-ups this episode, stay tuned!

Bouncy turtles? Ben’s favorite animal. Are we turtleyenough for the turtle club? Listening to jam music, reacting to old improvised music.

· Overdrive and a little reverb

· Check out BW Derge’s upcoming novel, RememberMe, Nothing-

· Nick’s band’s new single, Aftermath by@jackfunkmusic –

· Possible band name or on-stage personas:two-dolla Steve and drunk basement Bill

· Remember when the internet used to be fun?

· Finding CD-ROM video games in cereal boxes… the1990s were a different time.

· Animorphs! Demo game with 1 level, that was fun.

· No politics on the podcast! (but F--- theCheeto)

20 years of jamming together, few actual songs written, noband name (yet?) – but 100s of recorded jams. So we’re talking about them on the podcast. All rights reserved.

Late 90s, early 2000s jam sound like Incubus, Radiohead,or Limp Bizkit. Ben’s more experimental on the drums – very nice.

The jam itself is chill, sweet, and mellow. Guitar loopsreversed and halved.

· Do chocolate starfish eat or swim in hot dogflavored water?

· Like sunlight and drops of water, nice intro onthe drums

· Reversing loops, set it to halftime when you’restuck in a jam

· On a march to catch a butterfly – setting thescene.

· Stick toss crisscross? That could be the namefor something.

· Check out the new single on https://jackfunkmusic.com

· Here’s some more information about Laenif, by BWDerge - https://bwderge.com/how-was-laenif-created-world-building-and-self-publishing-journey/