It’s turtles all the way down. BW Derge, drummer, andNick Ring, guitarist, talk about a jam from May the fourth 2024. Ninja turtles, sea turtles… all about turtles.

Turtle jam. We’re talking all about turtles. There’sninja turtles, Nick’s like a turtle, sea turtles, the phrase “turtles all the way down.” No follow-ups this episode, stay tuned!

Bouncy turtles? Ben’s favorite animal. Are we turtleyenough for the turtle club? Listening to jam music, reacting to old improvised music.

· Overdrive and a little reverb

· Check out BW Derge’s upcoming novel, RememberMe, Nothing-

· Nick’s band’s new single, Aftermath by@jackfunkmusic –

· Possible band name or on-stage personas:two-dolla Steve and drunk basement Bill

· Remember when the internet used to be fun?

· Finding CD-ROM video games in cereal boxes… the1990s were a different time.

· Animorphs! Demo game with 1 level, that was fun.

· No politics on the podcast! (but F--- theCheeto)

20 years of jamming together, few actual songs written, noband name (yet?) – but 100s of recorded jams. So we’re talking about them on the podcast. All rights reserved.

Late 90s, early 2000s jam sound like Incubus, Radiohead,or Limp Bizkit. Ben’s more experimental on the drums – very nice.

The jam itself is chill, sweet, and mellow. Guitar loopsreversed and halved.

· Do chocolate starfish eat or swim in hot dogflavored water?

· Like sunlight and drops of water, nice intro onthe drums

· Reversing loops, set it to halftime when you’restuck in a jam

· On a march to catch a butterfly – setting thescene.

· Stick toss crisscross? That could be the namefor something.

· Check out the new single on https://jackfunkmusic.com

· Here’s some more information about Laenif, by BWDerge - https://bwderge.com/how-was-laenif-created-world-building-and-self-publishing-journey/

Jams from the past, starts pretty chill. “The BirthdaySong” (not THAT birthday song) written in memory of a friend who passed away in high school. Stories from high school – tool and cigarettes.

Solid drumming and great guitar and vocals. One of thebetter recordings of this song. Shout out to the old St. John’s class of 2007. Does smoking ADHD meds do anything?

• · Reminiscing on old attempts at album
• · Nick sings in this one!
• · Buy The Sun Will Eat You, Too here - https://www.amazon.com/Sun-Will-Eat-You-Too/dp/B0DN5XV875
• · Watch a short story about suicide prevention - https://youtu.be/cogngx-9nis
• · Does anyone have an old copy of “Braining Wheelsof the Train”?
• · Communism and Rage Against the Machine… andblindness.
• · Becomes more of a jam, talking about smoking.
• · Microwaved blunts? Why was that a good idea?
• · Sounding like they know what they’re doing…
• · The old me is a younger me…
• · Don’t be so hard on your old self… in thiseconomy?
• · June* 2025…
• · Information about “Remember Me, Nothing”:https://bwderge.com/remember-me-nothing-novel-by-bw-derge
• · New Jack Funk song: https://youtu.be/_GkKMxmFkEw?si=4njuzsltG-t4SIMZ
• · Why it might be better to write books instead ofsongs…
• · Nick is King Jack? (Full length album on thehorizon?)