John and Zach reconnect over their shared musical history, discussing their experiences in the punk scene, the influences that shaped their guitar playing, and the evolution of Congleton's band, The Paper Chase. They explore the unique musical identity that comes from their Texas roots, the importance of artistic merit over gear, and the personal journeys that led them to where they are today. They discuss coming up together in the same scene, hanging out and playing guitar. The discussion highlights the hard work and dedication required in the music industry, as well as the emotional and personal aspects of being a musician. They discuss Johns journey from a touring musician to one of the most prolific, in-demand ,genre-defying producers today.

John Congleton

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