Are we expecting leaders to succeed without giving them the proper tools? In this episode of The (un)conversations podcast, Dr. Alison welcomes Kathy Eastwood Chief People Officer of E Equals Why to discuss the missing human element in business. Kathy breaks down her framework for effective leadership—Expressing vision, Engaging people, and Executing—while sharing personal stories on choosing freedom over fear and leaning into uncomfortable conversations. Tune in to discover how emotional intelligence, empathy, and an unwavering drive can elevate your leadership and build lasting trust in the workplace.

Kathy opens with her (un)words: (un)deterred, (un)comfortable and (un)wavering, and through The (UN)word Effect™ shares the personal stories behind them, from growing up in a fear-based household to choosing freedom over fear.

In this episode:

- Impostor syndrome, "the mold" of leadership, and why hiding your true self is exhausting

- What "freedom" really means beyond financial freedom

- The lesson from her father: treat everyone with dignity and respect

- Why "buy-in" is really sales

- Leading layoffs humanely, and the survivor guilt no one talks about

- Why trust, empathy and influence drive retention

- Why you can't prioritize performance first and people second

- Where to start: know yourself

Ask Dr. Alison: How do you help people who don't know they need help? Kathy's answer: she doesn't take everyone on, because sustainable change requires someone willing to do the work.

ABOUT THE HOST

Dr. Alison Schmidt, Ph.D., BCC, is an executive strategist, leadership coach, and CEO of UNCONVENTION LLC. As host of The (un)conversations podcast, she spotlights (un)conventionally excellent leaders who share their vulnerable, authentic sides. Every episode opens with The (UN)word Effect, where guests share the defining words behind who they are and how they lead.

Connect with Dr. Alison:

• Website: https://www.unconventionllc.com/messageus

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alison-l-schmidt-phd-bcc/

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dralisonschmidt/

• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@unconversations?sub_confirmation=1

ABOUT THE GUEST

Kathy Eastwood is the CEO of E Equals Why, a leadership strategist, executive advisor, and author of The 3E Leadership Code.

Connect with Kathy Eastwood:

• Book: https://www.kathyeastwood.com/book

• Website: https://www.eequalswhy.com/

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathyeastwood/