In this episode, I shoot down last episode's proposal -- at least in the version I discussed -- based on an amazing observation from an astonishing paper, "Gödel’s system T revisited", by Alves, Fernández, Florido, and Mackie. Linear System T is diverging, as they reveal through a short but clever example. It is even diverging if one requires that the iterator can only be reduced when the function to be iterated is closed (no free variables). This extraordinary observation does not sink Victor's idea of basing type theory on a terminating untyped core language, but it does sink the specific language he and I were thinking about, namely affine lambda calculus plus structural recursion.

In this episode, I discuss an intriguing idea proposed by Victor Taelin, to base a logically sound type theory on an untyped but terminating language, upon which one may then erect as exotic a type system as one wishes. By enforcing termination already for the untyped language, we no longer have to make the type system do the heavy work of enforcing termination.

I correct what I said in the last episode about the author of the proof of FD from last episode based on intersection types. I also describe AI flopping when I ask it a question about this.