What does it look like when someone refuses to quit on something they barely understand yet? Gio "F1" Douyon walked onto a rugby pitch at Georgia State not knowing the rules, got handed a position he wasn't entirely sure on, and then scored a 100-meter try the moment a coach finally put him where he belonged.

From playing with the elite rugby teams around the world to helping build Atlanta Old White into a back-to-back national championship program (..2...3!), Gio's journey is a masterclass in staying the course when the path isn't obvious yet.

Beyond the rugby pitch, Gio opens up about his training business, Above the Hype Performance, and why he believes every athlete deserves access to the kind of coaching that actually develops the whole person, not just the sport. He and Sumo also dig into one of the most underrated forces in adult life: the power of a community that shows up for you before you've even earned it.

If Gio's story resonated with you, you'll find even more in the full conversation - the kind of honesty about setbacks and rebuilding that doesn't usually make the highlight reel. Give it a listen and share it with someone who's navigating their own unexpected pivot right now.

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On this episode of Into the Unknown, What does it take to follow a passion that the world keeps telling you has no future? Reysuka grew up literally in the catacombs of the American Museum of Natural History, the daughter of two biologists who had clawed their way out of extreme poverty, and she spent decades doing the same - working in morgues, building dioramas, anything to keep the dream alive.In this conversation, Jeremy and Reysuka talk about growing up between poverty and privilege, what it really costs to love something enough to build your life around it, why T-Rex was far more terrifying than Jurassic Park ever showed, and what it looks like for the next generation of paleontologists.

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What do you do when the people who are supposed to guide you keep pointing you toward a life that doesn't feel like yours? Michelle Steiner was diagnosed with a learning disability in kindergarten, and from that moment forward, she heard a steady stream of voices telling her what she couldn't do, where she couldn't go, and what kind of future she should settle for.

From the teacher who pushed trade school to the professor who called disability accommodations cheating, Michelle's path to a bachelor's degree, a published writing career, and a 30-year writing community was anything but straightforward. What carried her through wasn't blind optimism - it was a quiet, stubborn decision to try without needing to know the outcome first.

In this conversation, Michelle opens up about navigating a learning disability in a system that wasn't built for her, the moment a second-grade dinosaur story changed how she saw herself, and why reclaiming the narrative of her own life became the most powerful thing she ever did. She also shares what it's like to now work alongside students with disabilities, helping them find their voice and advocate for the support they need - sometimes by walking them to the teacher's desk herself. Michelle's story is a reminder that the chapters you never planned are often the ones that teach you the most about who you actually are.

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On this episode of "Into the Unknown" Jeremy Swick sits down with Andrew Faber to explore his journey from college athlete and coach to teacher and ultimately school principal. As the first person in his family to attend college, Andrew shares how football helped open that door and how an injury unexpectedly led him to coaching, where he discovered how rewarding it was to help young people grow and accomplish things they once thought they couldn’t.

Andrew shares how his years in the classroom shaped the leader he is today and why he believes effective leadership starts with relationships, authenticity, and leading by example. Jeremy and Andrew discuss the impact of sports on young people, transitioning from teaching to administration, motivating educators, creating meaningful educational experiences, and Andrew’s continued commitment to serving students and families in Milwaukee.

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On this episode of "Into the Unknown" Jeremy Swick sits down with Andre “Sleepy” Williams Jr. to explore his unexpected journey from chasing a professional football career to discovering a new opportunity in rugby. After injuries disrupted his path toward the NFL, Andre received an email about playing rugby—an opportunity he initially dismissed before deciding to put his pride aside, take a chance, and drive to Florida to pursue a sport he knew almost nothing about.

Andre shares how that decision launched a rugby career that has taken him from the United States to South Africa and Australia and into the world of Rugby Sevens. Jeremy and Andre discuss adapting when your original plan changes, recognizing unexpected opportunities, believing in yourself, and having the courage to pursue a new dream—even when you don’t know where it will lead.

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On this episode of "Into the Unknown" Jeremy Swick sits down with Kelly Romano to explore how rugby, education, and a passion for helping others have shaped her journey. Kelly shares how discovering rugby at Illinois State University became the foundation for a lifelong connection to the sport, leading her to become a player, coach, referee, and advocate for creating more opportunities for girls and athletes of all abilities.

Outside of rugby, Kelly is a teacher of the blind and visually impaired and a certified orientation and mobility specialist, helping others build confidence, independence, and recognize their own potential. Jeremy and Kelly discuss the power of community, taking chances, creating a sense of belonging, and Kelly’s mission to help people feel worthy, supported, and connected to their purpose.

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On this episode of "Into the Unknown" Jeremy Swick sits down with Daniel Gospodarek to explore how a life-changing car accident and traumatic brain injury reshaped the direction of his life. Daniel shares his journey from being told he might not graduate with his high school class to defining his own recovery, pursuing social work, and ultimately turning adversity into a greater sense of purpose.

Today, Daniel is a clinical social worker and founder of Revitalize Mental Health, where he focuses on helping men heal from trauma and overwhelming life experiences. Jeremy and Daniel discuss resilience, grit, finding purpose through unexpected challenges, men’s mental health, and why the right connection with a therapist can make such an important difference in the healing process.

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On this episode of "Into the Unknown" What drives someone to fight, and even risk their life, for something bigger than themselves? Jeremy "Sumo" Swick welcomes back Taylor “Thor” Youngling to catch up on his journey from beginning his PhD program to passing his doctoral exams, conducting archival research in Dublin, teaching his first university-level course, and now working toward his dissertation.

Thor takes us inside his research on early 20th-century Irish history and the deeper forces behind nationalism, revolution, and political violence.

Sumo and Thor explore how religion, identity, race, imperialism, and even our awareness of mortality can influence the causes people dedicate themselves to. Along the way, they discuss surprising historical connections, including Frederick Douglass and Daniel O’Connell, and why studying history means looking beyond individual events to understand the ideas and movements connecting people across countries and generations.

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