Join us for an inspiring conversation with Melina Scotto, a cybersecurity leader whose career spans from database management in the 90s to CISO roles protecting billions in federal healthcare contracts and Fortune 500 enterprises. Melina shares raw insights on leadership, the hidden challenges of the CISO role, and why the fundamentals of security still matter more than flashy new tools. From navigating gender bias in AI to preventing team burnout on the front lines, this episode pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to lead in cybersecurity today.

Key Themes:

• The Accidental Path to Cybersecurity Leadership:Melina never planned to become a CISO, starting as an aspiring opera singer who fell in love with IT's puzzle-solving nature and kept saying yes to opportunities.

• Why Technical Skills Won't Get You to the Top: The transition from federal to Fortune 500 required completely relearning communication, focusing on business risk and stock price impact rather than technical details.

• The Hidden Crisis of Cybersecurity Burnout: Melina advocates fiercely for protecting teams from burnout by banning Friday meetings and ensuring incident response professionals have proper backup instead of 48-hour shifts.

• AI's Double-Edged Sword for Security and Careers: Changing her resume from Melina to Mark Scotto dramatically increases interviews, revealing how AI bias affects women while threatening entry-level security positions.

• The Frustrating Reality of Ignored Basics: Despite decades in the industry, organizations still neglect fundamental security hygiene like vulnerability management, choosing to hand-wave critical risks instead of addressing them.

SHOW NOTES:

Books:

"Let Them" by Mel Robbins
Podcasts:
Smashing Security
Wiser Than Me - Hosted by Julia Louis-Dreyfus

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Ready for some real talk about cybersecurity? Danny and Quintana pull no punches in this unfiltered conversation about the state of the industry. From AI's breakneck pace to the harsh realities of breaking into cyber, they tackle the topics everyone's thinking about but few are brave enough to say out loud. This isn't your typical tech podcast full of buzzwords and empty promises. It's a candid discussion between two professionals who've put in the work and aren't afraid to call out the BS in an industry that desperately needs more honesty.

What We Cover
• AI is Moving Too Fast for Ethics to Keep Up - Tech giants are racing ahead at supersonic speed with no guardrails, and a major disaster might be the only thing that forces real change.
• The Cybersecurity Job Market Reality - Despite millions of "unfilled positions," breaking into cyber is brutal, certifications don't guarantee jobs, and the influencer promises of six-figure salaries are misleading an entire generation.
• Experience Beats Certifications Every Time - Both hosts would hire someone with real-world experience over a wall full of certificates. The CISSP gets called out as "the worst test ever" that teaches you nothing practical.
• Influencer Culture is All Smoke and Mirrors - When did everyone with a microphone become an expert? The hosts challenge whether these voices posting AI-generated content around the clock have any actual experience to back up their claims.
• Authenticity is Dying on Social Media - LinkedIn has become a performative stage of AI slop and superhero graphics. In an era where AI can generate everything, showing your real self has become a radical act.

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In this episode of Inclusive Cyber, Danny sits down with Liz Wharton, an attorney turned tech and policy leader whose career proves there is no single path into cybersecurity. From big law to startups to advising the world’s busiest airport, Liz shares how curiosity, asking better questions, and leaning into vulnerability open real doors. Together they unpack practical ways to find mentors, build momentum through community, and navigate AI with intention, privacy awareness, and solid fundamentals. If you are breaking into cyber, leading a team, or rethinking how policy meets practice, this conversation will give you actionable ideas and a push to take your shot.

Key themes:

Nonlinear careers: why curiosity plus problem solving beats a rigid roadmap

Mentorship and networking: how to approach experts, volunteer smartly, and follow up

Policy meets practice: serving cities and airports under tight budgets and real-world risk

AI with guardrails: learn the basics, test first, protect privacy, and use tools intentionally

Growth mindset: when fear shows up, reframe skills, pivot with purpose, and create momentum

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Show Notes:
Resources:
The Thursday Murder Club series by Richard Osman

Podcast: Product Market Fit — hosted by Daniel Lines

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