This episode begins with some "Old Guy Moaning Stuff" about much formulaic modern music, auto-tuning of vocals and whether musicians keep performing live for too long. But then we cheer up discussing favourite instruments and vocalists, the inspiration behind break-up songs and the records we've played the most times throughout our lives.

Music then and now, good and bad decades then and now and who we wished we'd seen (and wished we hadn't!)

Were The Incredible String Band really incredible? Did Amazing Blondel live up to their name? And were Dire Straits dire?

Plus the time Jon and Dave joined a band live onstage - and how Jon paid the cost!

In a slight detour from our usual format we discuss our Music tastes and distastes.

Our hosts reminisce about growing up in a musical wasteland, about Dansettes and radiograms, package tours and sampler albums, and about everything from Irish rebel songs to Gary Glitter.

Learn how Jon lost his pocket money betting against the popularity of Herman's Hermits and why Dave hid his first purchased album from his Father.

Memories of ray gun torches, Subbuteo, train sets and 'clicky-ba'... Happy days(or was that just the effects of the accidental glue-sniffing?)

How well do we know each other? Was Dave saved by a burly Greek sailor? Would Jon spike somebody's coffee with laxative? And can Dave do camp and Scottish?

... or odd shoes and eggs? We recall some pranks that backfired, plus vegetables (and old ladies) who smell.

College life continues with stories of troubles with gas, women in wardrobes, smelly dead sea creatures, and how to sex an earwig.

It's been a while since we got together for a chat but now we're back!

We ended up with so much material that we've had to make this a two part Podcast.

Hangovers, topless go-go dancers, S & M - how the world unfolds for our heroes as they leave home for the first time and go to college. Tales of little money, not much food, lots of alcohol... and even a bit of education.