In Episode 23 of Moore Than Politics, State Senator Michael Moore sits down with Dave Minasian of the North Atlantic States Regional Council of Carpenters, Local 336, for a wide-ranging conversation about the skilled trades, organized labor, and the future of the construction workforce in Massachusetts.

With more than 30,000 members represented across the Northeast, the North Atlantic States Regional Council of Carpenters plays a major role in training the next generation of skilled workers while advocating for wages, benefits, retirement security, and safe working conditions.

Senator Moore and Minasian discuss why unions still matter to working families, the growing problem of wage theft and illegal contracting practices, and the challenges facing workers as housing, healthcare, education, and everyday living expenses continue to rise. They also take a closer look at careers in the skilled trades and the opportunities available through union apprenticeship programs. Menasian explains why employers aren't necessarily looking for someone who already knows how to swing a hammer—they're looking for people with the attitude, work ethic, and desire to learn. The skills can be taught.

The conversation also explores the remarkable training happening at the Carpenters' facility in Millbury—from commercial construction and welding to rigging, blueprint technology and even underwater welding. Plus, they tackle some of the bigger issues affecting Massachusetts construction today, including the housing shortage, tariffs and material costs, energy policy, major infrastructure projects, and the increasing demand for skilled workers.

For young people considering what comes after high school—or adults thinking about a career change—this episode offers a revealing look at an often-overlooked path to a middle-class career with training, healthcare and retirement benefits, without necessarily following the traditional four-year college route.

Moore Than Politics goes beyond the headlines for conversations about the issues affecting Massachusetts residents, their families, and their communities.