What happens after you retire—and suddenly no one is telling you where to be or what to do?

Jim and Marilyn Riley have created a next chapter filled with friendship, travel, curiosity, learning, family and fun. But they didn't get there in exactly the same way.

Jim transitioned out of the company he had built, eventually handing leadership to his son and realizing that sometimes the best thing a former leader can do is get out of the way. Marilyn, a retired nurse, found new purpose through creativity, golf, book clubs, volunteering and her grandchildren.

Together, they offer an important lesson: a fulfilling retirement doesn't just happen. You build it.

In this episode of On the Brink with Andi Simon, we talk about creating community before you need it, maintaining separate and shared interests as a couple, staying curious and active, traveling with intention, and why there really should be a "Retirement 101."

If you're approaching retirement—or already there and wondering what comes next—Jim and Marilyn's story may help you rethink what this stage of life can become.

Ready to rethink your own next chapter?

Learn more about Andi Simon's new book, Rethink Retirement: It's not the end but the beginning of what's next, and discover more stories, insights, and resources to help you create a life filled with purpose, people, and possibility.

Visit AndiSimon.com to learn more, and follow On the Brink with Andi Simon wherever you listen to podcasts.

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