Can revival become a permanent way of life? Daniel Kolenda talks with Duncan and Kate Smith, leaders of Catch The Fire World, to discuss one of the most significant movements of the Holy Spirit in modern history, the Toronto Blessing, and why they believe the revival never truly ended. They share firsthand stories of extraordinary encounters with God, explain what it means to build churches that become "dwelling places" for His presence, and discuss how pastors can cultivate churches where the Holy Spirit is welcomed rather than merely acknowledged. The conversation explores the lasting impact of the Toronto Blessing, creating a culture that hosts God's presence, lessons from John & Carol Arnott and Reinhard Bonnke, and leading the next generation. Whether you're a pastor, ministry leader, or simply hungry for more of God, this conversation will challenge your understanding of revival and encourage you to pursue His presence above everything else.

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00:00 – Coming Up

01:18 – Duncan & Kate Smith's Journey

04:20 – First Encounter with the Toronto Blessing

10:41 – Explaining Revival to a New Generation

12:28 – Habitation vs. Visitation

18:58 – How Pastors Can Cultivate God's Presence

25:00 – Making Room for the Holy Spirit

28:09 – Moses, the Rock & Following God's Voice

35:17 – Succession in Ministry

42:32 – You're Not Called to Wear Someone Else's Shoes

47:15 – What Makes a Great Next-Generation Leader?

58:13 – Leading After a Leadership Transition

1:02:06 – Honoring Spiritual Fathers

1:04:15 – Final Encouragement

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