Haeny and Nathan look back on the most epic season of Pop and Play yet. They ask themselves, what are we taking away from this season of play dates and pop culture reflections? They discuss “The Banal Horror of Jimmy Fallon” by Jon Greenaway ( https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/the-banal-horror-of-jimmy-fallon ) and ask: does play always have to be commodified?

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