Today, we're joined by Hollie Davidson in a different type of interview - different because the questions weren't asked by Keith. This is the audio of a longer interview conducted by Laura-Jane Jones for TNT Sport in November last year, but made available with other media outlets. It's full of gold!

If you missed the last episode with Tarsh Ganley, then you can listen here

Areas covered in today's episode:

1. Off-field Hollie -How having non-rugby hobbies is so important
2. The switch from women's to men's
3. Being the only female in men's camp
4. Knowing what a red card feels like - and learning from those feelings
5. Her team around her - growing together and those who went before
6. Her lead up to the Wales v NZ in November
7. The benefit of being a female in the men's space
8. Referees being in the room around rugby conversations at World Rugby level
9. Player turned referee
10. Trolls and how it feels to be a ref under the microscope
11. Her future - after refereeing, but also the near future with RWC 2027 on the horizon

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