In this second conversation with Corinne Gardner, we pick up where we left off and go deeper into the relationship between intuition, identity, and money. Corinne shares how her decision to leave nursing — despite the fear that it would upend her sense of self and earning capacity — became one of the most honest acts of self-advocacy she'd ever taken. Together, we explore how insecurities can be gateways to human potential, what it means to "douse" our intuition, and how the path to embodied wealth begins with learning to hear — and trust — what our bodies already know.

Corinne Gardner is a connector facilitator by heart, a women's health and relationship coach; aka a Shame Shedder. She founded Evulva Wellness to reimagine how women speak of themselves, as a pathway of believing in our worthiness without struggling as 'lone wolves' in our transitions and conscious pivots. She encourages women to practice self-appreciation. Bridging the fields of architecture, designing spaces for nurturing real connections and clarifying our wants and needs, Corinne encourages women to notice, honor and voice our natural embarrassment, shame, and distress to people who will really listen, trusted mentors, coaches and friends, we can shift and revel in being ourselves without apologizing for our ever-evolving uncertainty, needs and desires.

Corinne believes and has experienced herself, that when women feel safe, heard and well-supported in their flourishing as a judgement-free process then we can safely shift from focusing on 'figuring things out or constantly doing' to nurturing aligned Self pleasure practices to evolve. For Corinne's fuller BIO click here.

• Hydrating the parts of ourselves connected to money, intimacy, and boundaries
• Conversations with a former nurse and Ayurvedic practitioner that helped Corinne hear her body
• The irony of sacrificing her own mental health while caring for others
• The privilege and courage it takes to pivot — and the cost of staying
• Exploring what it means to doubt our gut knowing and what trusting it looks like
• Corinne's reminder that there's no one-size path — each person's timing is their own.

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In this episode, I sit down with Corinne Gardner, a women's health and relationship coach who helps women shed shame and practice self-appreciation. Corinne shares how her journey toward financial literacy paralleled her journey toward embodiment—both requiring her to ask uncomfortable questions and find mentors who would truly listen.

We talk about the women in her family who modeled both overgiving and resilience, how she discovered values-aligned investing through asking questions she wasn't sure had answers, and why receiving is a skill many of us have to consciously learn. This conversation is for anyone who's ever felt like a "lone wolf" in their growth and is ready to find support.

Corinne Gardner is a connector facilitator by heart, a women's health and relationship coach; aka a Shame Shedder. She founded Evulva Wellness to reimagine how women speak of themselves, as a pathway of believing in our worthiness without struggling as 'lone wolves' in our transitions and conscious pivots. She encourages women to practice self-appreciation. Bridging the fields of architecture, designing spaces for nurturing real connections and clarifying our wants and needs, Corinne encourages women to notice, honor and voice our natural embarrassment, shame, and distress to people who will really listen, trusted mentors, coaches and friends, we can shift and revel in being ourselves without apologizing for our ever-evolving uncertainty, needs and desires.

Corinne believes and has experienced herself, that when women feel safe, heard and well-supported in their flourishing as a judgement-free process then we can safely shift from focusing on 'figuring things out or constantly doing' to nurturing aligned Self pleasure practices to evolve. For Corinne's fuller BIO click here.

• Financial confidence and literacy as an ongoing practice, not a destination
• The dissonance between seeing her nanny’s self-fulfillment while the women in her family struggled with financial secrecy
• Witnessing chronic doing, overgiving, and self-abandonment in the women around her
• Receiving as a skill learned through conversations with women outside her family
• Discovering that values aligned investors exist
• Corinne's reminder that everyone's path to financial empowerment unfolds in their own timing

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Angela Barbash grew up watching her parents file for bankruptcy over and over, and as a young adult, she made a lot of the same money mistakes because no one had taught her differently. After spending years in traditional finance, she kept running into the same wall: clients asking how they could invest locally, and firms telling her she couldn't talk about it. So in 2013, she started Revalue, an investment firm that helps everyday people align their investments with their values. We talk about her start in financial services, what it takes to build a marketplace from scratch, and why she refuses to turn anyone away.

Angela is a mom, anthropologist, entrepreneur, and an unabashed challenger of the status quo. She has dedicated over 20 years in service as an investment advisor in the Metro Detroit region, including founding Revalue as a values-driven investment firm in 2013. Angela has contributed countless hours to field building, public education, and infrastructure development to help build a more compassionate industry centered on solidarity economy principles. You will often find her educating on the topics of financial resiliency, community capital, and conscious business management. When she's not sleeping and breathing regenerative finance, she can be found playing with her husband and two kids, enjoying the fresh air of the outdoors, or playing D&D with her family.

• How clients asked Angela to help them invest locally instead of Wall Street—and why traditional finance had no answer
• Why four different firms told Angela they loved her work but she couldn't talk about local investing or holistic wealth
• Crying and leaving a regional meeting where advisors talked about golf while clients were losing everything
• Building Revalue as an employee-owned cooperative where seven of ten team members are owners
• The network of activists and allies who helped Angela survive the brutal first five years of building her business
• Why community investing is more relational and human-centered than Wall Street—and why that's actually a good thing
• Three strategies Revalue uses to help non-accredited investors access community investments
• Breaking out of intergenerational poverty cycles
• Angela's unwavering commitment: serving anyone who comes to Revalue, even with just a thousand-dollar Roth IRA

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Angela Barbash appears here as a guest, not a client of Natural Investments. No compensation was exchanged in connection with this episode. Angela and Diana are colleagues in the values-aligned investing space — that professional relationship is disclosed as a potential conflict of interest.

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I’m thrilled to bring you a conversation with Anne Symens-Bucher, co-founder of Canticle Farm and former executive assistant to Joanna Macy. We explore her 15-year journey of fundraising for Canticle Farm, an intentional community in Oakland.

Anne shares how the realization "I can't do this alone" became the foundation for a completely different approach to money—one rooted in relationship, gift economy, and the courage to receive. We talk about unhooking the exchange between giving and receiving, the intimacy required to truly ask for support, and what it means to practice faith in abundance even when the path forward isn't clear.

Anne Symens-Bucher was Joanna Macy's executive assistant for 20 years before Joanna's death in July of 2025. Prior to that Anne worked for 25 years for the Franciscan Friars of the St. Barbara Province, primarily as co-director of their Justice, Peace, and Integrity of Creation Office. In the 1970s, she lived at the New York Catholic Worker with Dorothy Day, and subsequently founded the Oakland Catholic Worker. She co-founded the Nevada Desert Experience, organizing events at the Nevada Test Site and serving on the NDE Board for 3 decades.

Anne and her husband, Terry, are the founders of Canticle Farm in Oakland, an intentional community experimenting at the intersection of faith, social justice, and Earth-based nonviolent activism. Canticle Farm is rooted in Franciscan spirituality and the Work That Reconnects, a body of teachings of which Joanna Macy was the root teacher. Anne & Terry have been married for 39 years and are the parents of five children and grandparents of three.

• The moment "I can't do this alone" changed everything about fundraising
• "You are already further along than you realize"—trusting what's already happening
• As a fundraiser, it's your job to ask, their job to say yes or no
• Why the "no" makes it easier to trust the "yes"
• Canticle Farm as a platform for the Great Turning
• Gifts just move—they don't need to be forced forward
• How to receive a sacred gift: pausing to honor the exchange
• Making the leap of faith before the path appears

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Amy Pinnell shares with us the unique intersection of high sensitivity, caregiving professions, and financial wellbeing. Amy shares her journey from burning out early in her social work career to creating a sustainable practice that serves highly sensitive helpers and healers. We explore why sensitive people are both naturally gifted at caregiving and more vulnerable to burnout, the role financial stability plays in preventing burnout, and how to release the martyrdom mentality that tells us service requires self-sacrifice. This is an essential conversation for anyone in a helping profession who's trying to honor both their calling and their own needs.

Amy Pinnell is a Registered Social Worker, Clinical Therapist, and the founder of Sensitive Social Worker. She is on a mission to help tender-hearted, deep-feeling helpers and healers engage in meaningful, social-justice oriented work, without burning out. Through her private therapy practice (Brave Spirit Counselling), online courses and live workshops Amy has helped 100s of helpers and healers release martyrdom mentality and embrace their sensitivity so that they could continue showing up whole-heartedly for their communities and for themselves.

Amy is the creator of the Love Notes for Social Workers Card Deck, a pocket-sized support for busy Social Workers which has been purchased by Social Workers worldwide. Amy has a Masters of Social Work from the University of Victoria and has 10+ years of experience working as a Social Worker in the areas of mental health and addictions.

• The childhood memory that revealed early money beliefs: "My parents would not be able to afford all those gifts"
• Realizing the two options presented in childhood: spend as little as possible or use credit
• The challenge of asking clients for money in private practice after years of free services
• How learning about high sensitivity felt like "a missing puzzle piece"
• Why 50% of therapy clients are highly sensitive, even though only 15-20% of the population is
• The critical difference between burnout prevention and burnout recovery
• Why reducing stimulation matters: highly sensitive people can't filter out noise, lights, smells, and energy the way others can
• "The personal is political"—bringing social justice into personal finance decisions

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Today I speak with Sarah Carr about the intersection of trauma, neurodiversity, and financial well-being. Sarah shares her journey from growing up in a high-demand high-control religious environment to becoming a financial therapist who helps clients—particularly women and neurodivergent individuals—reclaim their relationship with money.

We discuss how trauma responses show up in our financial decisions, why income became Sarah's security blanket after leaving an oppressive marriage, and how raising two children on the autism spectrum taught her about nervous system regulation and the beauty of different ways of thinking.

Sarah is a Certified Financial Therapist®, Certified Financial Planner®, and wealth manager committed to helping people rewrite money stories, deconstruct old patterns, and cultivate embodied financial well-being without shame.

Raising and educating two neuro-diverse children, Sarah has learned more about the impacts of Autism and ADHD on her clients' financial lives and relationships. Sarah serves on two non-profit boards: Reclamation Collective, a national community advocacy organization providing resources and support for those harmed in religious and spiritual contexts, and Endless Mountains Pride, a local non-profit providing education, advocacy, and connection for the LGBTQ+ community. While Sarah works with clients across the country, she resides in upstate New York where her favorite place to recenter is along one of the many waterfall trails she loves to hike.

• Growing up in high-demand, high-control religion shaped Sarah's early beliefs about women and money
• The identity crisis of becoming a stay-at-home mom after having financial independence
• How leaving an oppressive marriage revealed her money script that income equals security
• Discovering financial therapy while navigating early motherhood
• Processing personal trauma while learning about son's autism diagnosis
• Working with women leaving high-control religious systems and neurodiverse clients
• How trauma creates stuck emotions and disrupted agency
• Permission slips and questioning deeply held beliefs about capability
• We don't heal individually—we heal collectively

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Bari Tessler is a financial therapist and pioneer in merging emotional literacy with financial literacy. We talk about her 26-year journey creating the Art of Money methodology. Bari shares how she went from throwing away bank statements in graduate school to falling in love with bookkeeping and developing a somatic-based approach to financial therapy.

We explore her current year-long sabbatical, the importance of adapting business models to different life phases, the practice of money dates with candles and chocolate, and why checking in with our bodies is essential to our relationship with money. This conversation offers both practical tools and deep wisdom about honoring our rhythms, redefining success, and bringing our whole selves to our finances.

• Bari's identity as a highly sensitive person since childhood
• How Bari has adapted her business model five different times over 24 years
• The power of group work for unshaming money stories
• The courage required to pivot when business models stop working
• How Bari's father shaped her early relationship with work and money
• The ritual of money dates: candles, chocolate, and celebrating small steps
• Why 85-95% of money decisions are based on emotions
• Money as a doorway to understanding relationships, intimacy, and worth

Bari Tessler, M.A. is a Financial Therapist and a pioneer in the Financial Therapy field. She has a Masters degree in Somatic Psychology from Naropa University, 1998. She then ran a bookkeeping business for therapists and artists. In 2001, she merged all her training and created a somatic-based Financial Therapy methodology that she has been teaching for 24 years. She is also the founder of The Art of Money, a financial therapy program and a Mentor Program for therapists, coaches and financial professionals.

Bari is the Author of two books: The Art of Money: A Life-Changing Guide to Financial Happiness and The Art of Money Workbook. Her work has been featured on Oprah.com, Inc.com, US News & World Report, Reuters Money, The Fiscal Times, USA Today, The Cut, Girlboss, Nerd Wallet, Real Simple, MindBodyGreen, and REDBOOK. She has also been featured on the cover of Experience Life and Mindful. Bari loves to read, dance and enjoy dark chocolate. She lives in Boulder, CO with her husband, son, many cats + a big puppy. You can find her here.

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In this episode, I talk with Chantel Chapman, founder of the Trauma of Money Institute, about how trauma—both personal and systemic—profoundly shapes our relationship with money. Chantel shares her journey from financial literacy educator to developing the Trauma of Money after recognizing that traditional approaches couldn't address her own destructive money patterns rooted in childhood experiences. We explore capitalism as a traumatizing system, the concept of financial fawning, the importance of discernment over shame, and why healing our relationship with money requires addressing both our individual experiences and the broader economic context we live in. This conversation offers a compassionate, trauma-informed framework for understanding money behaviors that goes far deeper than budgeting advice.

• What trauma-sensitive approaches to money really mean
• How capitalism creates trauma through profit-over-everything values
• Chantel's journey from mortgage broker to creating the Trauma of Money
• Why Chantel trains professionals rather than working one-on-one
• Experimenting with reimagining capitalism through profit-sharing
• The acronym PAUSE: Perhaps An Unseen Solution Exists
• How any trauma can impact your relationship with money
• The difference between hedonic and eudaimonic approaches to wellbeing
• Why we need dopamine reset periods to get off the hedonic treadmill

Chantel Chapman is an International Bestselling Author—named to the USA Today Bestseller List and #1 on The Globe and Mail's Canadian Non-Fiction list—for her book The Trauma of Money (Wiley, September 2025). She is a trauma survivor, financial trauma educator, and the creator of the Trauma of Money (TOM) Method. Her journey through complex PTSD—and her realization that traditional financial literacy couldn't shift her own destructive money patterns—led her to uncover the profound link between trauma and financial behavior. In response, she spent years researching trauma, addiction, behavioral science, and economic systems to develop an innovative method for financial healing and empowerment.

Chantel is the founder and CEO of the Trauma of Money Institute, an internationally recognized certification program that has trained thousands of professionals across more than 22 countries. The TOM Method is reshaping how we understand money—not just as numbers, but as something deeply shaped by emotion, lived experience, and systemic forces. With over 20 years of experience in financial education and fintech consulting, Chantel has taught and written curricula or programming for institutions such as Humber College, Wilfrid Laurier University, Adler University, and Simon Fraser University, and has worked with organizations including United Way, YMCA, NDN Collective, the American Psychological Association, JP Morgan Chase, and YPO. She also serves on the National Task Force for Economic Justice, supporting CCFWE's mission to end financial abuse. A sought-after speaker and advisor on economic justice and trauma-sensitive practices, her work has been featured in The New York Times, Forbes, NPR, and The Globe and Mail. Chantel is a settler of European descent who works and resides on the stolen traditional lands of the Kwantlen (kwaant·luhn), Musqueam ("mus-kwee-um"), and Tswassen (saa·wa·sn) peoples.

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